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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-FSDevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm: Remove __GFP_COLD
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:18:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a596669e-ea78-5aa3-a30f-0ae28786fd56@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171018075952.10627-9-mgorman@techsingularity.net>

On 10/18/2017 09:59 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> As the page free path makes no distinction between cache hot and cold
> pages, there is no real useful ordering of pages in the free list that
> allocation requests can take advantage of. Juding from the users of
> __GFP_COLD, it is likely that a number of them are the result of copying
> other sites instead of actually measuring the impact. Remove the
> __GFP_COLD parameter which simplifies a number of paths in the page
> allocator.
> 
> This is potentially controversial but bear in mind that the size of the
> per-cpu pagelists versus modern cache sizes means that the whole per-cpu
> list can often fit in the L3 cache. Hence, there is only a potential benefit
> for microbenchmarks that alloc/free pages in a tight loop. It's even worse
> when THP is taken into account which has little or no chance of getting a
> cache-hot page as the per-cpu list is bypassed and the zeroing of multiple
> pages will thrash the cache anyway.
> 
> The truncate microbenchmarks are not shown as this patch affects the
> allocation path and not the free path. A page fault microbenchmark was
> tested but it showed no sigificant difference which is not surprising given
> that the __GFP_COLD branches are a miniscule percentage of the fault path.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>

Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>

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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux-FSDevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] mm: Remove __GFP_COLD
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:18:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a596669e-ea78-5aa3-a30f-0ae28786fd56@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171018075952.10627-9-mgorman@techsingularity.net>

On 10/18/2017 09:59 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> As the page free path makes no distinction between cache hot and cold
> pages, there is no real useful ordering of pages in the free list that
> allocation requests can take advantage of. Juding from the users of
> __GFP_COLD, it is likely that a number of them are the result of copying
> other sites instead of actually measuring the impact. Remove the
> __GFP_COLD parameter which simplifies a number of paths in the page
> allocator.
> 
> This is potentially controversial but bear in mind that the size of the
> per-cpu pagelists versus modern cache sizes means that the whole per-cpu
> list can often fit in the L3 cache. Hence, there is only a potential benefit
> for microbenchmarks that alloc/free pages in a tight loop. It's even worse
> when THP is taken into account which has little or no chance of getting a
> cache-hot page as the per-cpu list is bypassed and the zeroing of multiple
> pages will thrash the cache anyway.
> 
> The truncate microbenchmarks are not shown as this patch affects the
> allocation path and not the free path. A page fault microbenchmark was
> tested but it showed no sigificant difference which is not surprising given
> that the __GFP_COLD branches are a miniscule percentage of the fault path.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>

Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-19 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-18  7:59 [PATCH 0/8] Follow-up for speed up page cache truncation v2 Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59 ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm, page_alloc: Enable/disable IRQs once when freeing a list of pages Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  9:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-18  9:02     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-18 10:15     ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18 10:15       ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm, truncate: Do not check mapping for every page being truncated Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19  8:11   ` Jan Kara
2017-10-19  8:11     ` Jan Kara
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm, truncate: Remove all exceptional entries from pagevec under one lock Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] mm: Only drain per-cpu pagevecs once per pagevec usage Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19  9:12   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19  9:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19  9:33     ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19  9:33       ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19 13:21       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 13:21         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm, pagevec: Remove cold parameter for pagevecs Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19  9:24   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19  9:24     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm: Remove cold parameter for release_pages Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19  9:26   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19  9:26     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm, Remove cold parameter from free_hot_cold_page* Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19 13:12   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 13:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 15:43     ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19 15:43       ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: Remove __GFP_COLD Mel Gorman
2017-10-18  7:59   ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19 13:18   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2017-10-19 13:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 13:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 13:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 13:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-10-19 14:32     ` Mel Gorman
2017-10-19 14:32       ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-10-12  9:30 [PATCH 0/8] Follow-up for speed up page cache truncation Mel Gorman
2017-10-12  9:31 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: Remove __GFP_COLD Mel Gorman
2017-10-12  9:31   ` Mel Gorman

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