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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6] efi_loader: bootmgr: run an EFI application of a given load option
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:58:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7d67b21-feea-2eda-2d4a-9853aff67358@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181022053735.GB11663@linaro.org>



On 22.10.18 06:37, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:46:36AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18.10.18 07:48, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:43:22AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17.10.18 09:32, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
>>>>> With this patch applied, we will be able to selectively execute
>>>>> an EFI application by specifying a load option, say "-1" for Boot0001,
>>>>> "-2" for Boot0002 and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>>   => bootefi bootmgr -1 <fdt addr>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think -1 is very good user experience :). How about
>>>>   => bootefi bootmgr Boot0001 <fdt addr>
>>>
>>> It looks like u-boot's run command with six more characters!
>>> How about this:
>>>
>>>  => bootefi bootmgr #1 <fdt addr>
>>
>> So what is the problem with making it Boot0001? That way at least the
>> variable name is consistent across the board ;).
> 
> More typing!
> 
>>> or allowing "-" as empty fdt,
>>>
>>>  => bootefi bootmgr - 1
> 
> (Please notice that this is NOT "-1.")
> I also like this one as it maintains upward-compatibility:
>     bootefi bootmgr [<fdt addr> [<boot id>]]
> 
>>> Otherwise, a new sub command?
>>>
>>>  => bootefi run 1, or
>>>  => efi(shell) run 1
> 
> Well, if you stick to "setenv -e"-like syntax, how about
>     => run -e Boot0001
> 
> Given that "run" takes an environment variable, this syntax
> is perfectly fit to U-boot, isn't it?

Ooooh, that is an amazing suggestion! And "run -e" without an explicit
target could just invoke efibootmgr directly, looping through the BootOrder.

> 
>>> # Discussing UI is a fun or mess.
> 
> # I hope that this is not fruitless discussion.
> 
>> Yeah :(. What we really need would be that "bootefi bootmgr" becomes
>> "efiboot". But that would be even more confusing ;).
> 
> So I think that we should not add anything more to "bootefi bootmgr"
> to extend functionality.
> 
>> So the whole rationale of why "bootefi" is the way it is today is that
>> it's trying to lean on the existing "bootm", "booti", "bootz" etc syntax
>> as much as it can. In other words, it's trying to fit into the U-Boot
>> ecosystem much rather than the existing edk2 one.
> 
> IMO, "boot*" variants are already a mess.
> 
>> I would like to keep following that path going forward. Whenever there
>> is an option between "U-Boot like" and "edk2 like" I would always opt
>> for the "U-Boot like" user experience, because if they want edk2 they
>> may as well use edk2 ;).
> 
> Well, BootXXXX is quite UEFI-specific and people who are not familiar
> with UEFI need to consult UEFI specification anyway and this means, to me,
> that UEFI shell's similarity would be favorable.
> (See "setvar" syntax, not mine but UEFI shell's, which can be
> quite different and complicated.)

Well my thinking there is that if someone likes the UEFI Shell, they may
as well just run it :).


Alex

> 
> Does anybody else have any opinions?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Takahiro Akashi
> 
>>
>> Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-22  6:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-17  7:32 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] efi: make efi and bootmgr more usable AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/6] fs: update fs_dev_part in fs_set_blk_dev_with_part() AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/6] efi_loader: add efi_dp_from_name() AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17 10:46   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,2/6] " Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-10-17 10:48     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/6] efi_loader: bootmgr: add load option helper functions AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  8:40   ` Alexander Graf
2018-10-18  7:57     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-18  8:39       ` Alexander Graf
2018-10-22  5:48         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/6] cmd: add efishell command AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/6] bootefi: carve out fdt parameter handling AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  7:32 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6] efi_loader: bootmgr: run an EFI application of a given load option AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  8:43   ` Alexander Graf
2018-10-18  5:48     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-18  8:46       ` Alexander Graf
2018-10-22  5:37         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-22  6:58           ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2018-10-23  3:18             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-17  8:06 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] efi: make efi and bootmgr more usable Alexander Graf
2018-10-18  5:24   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2018-10-18  9:03     ` Alexander Graf

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