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From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dwmw@amazon.co.uk,
	peterz@infradead.org
Cc: linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:13:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a85c28b8-1255-3264-bb4a-89e85e3c6009@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180212102211.cdrrqqd4hdw7xu5y@gmail.com>

On 02/12/2018 02:22 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> +static inline void firmware_restrict_branch_speculation_end(void)
>> +{
>> +	alternative_msr_write(MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL, 0,
>> +			      X86_FEATURE_USE_IBRS_FW);
> BTW., there's a detail that only occurred to me today, this enabling/disabling 
> sequence is not NMI safe, and it might be called from NMI context:

FWIW, Tim Chen and I talked about this a bunch.  We ended up just
saving/restoring the MSR verbatim in the NMI handler the same way we do
CR3, stashing it in a high general-purpose-register (r%12?).  That costs
a RDMSR (at least) and an WRMSR (which you can optimize out).  We have a
patch for that somewhere if anybody wants it.

We also came to the same conclusion that it's a rather challenging thing
to exploit these cases, especially when you consider that we can easily
do RSB stuffing on NMI exit just before going back to the firmware.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-12 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-10 23:39 [PATCH v2 0/6] Spectre v2 updates David Woodhouse
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/speculation: Update Speculation Control microcode blacklist David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 12:08   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-12  9:50   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] " Darren Kenny
2018-02-12 14:16   ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 14:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Revert "x86/speculation: Simplify indirect_branch_prediction_barrier()" David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 12:09   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  8:58   ` tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  9:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13 11:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-13 13:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13 13:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-13 15:26           ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Add <asm/msr-index.h> dependency tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-15  0:28           ` tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: x86: Reduce retpoline performance impact in slot_handle_level_range() David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 12:09   ` [tip:x86/pti] KVM/x86: Reduce retpoline performance impact in slot_handle_level_range(), by always inlining iterator helper methods tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  8:58   ` tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] X86/nVMX: Properly set spec_ctrl and pred_cmd before merging MSRs David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 12:10   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-13  8:59   ` tip-bot for KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] KVM/nVMX: Set the CPU_BASED_USE_MSR_BITMAPS if we have a valid L02 MSR bitmap David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 10:19   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <1518345844.3677.365.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2018-02-11 10:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-11 12:10   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-13  8:59   ` tip-bot for KarimAllah Ahmed
2018-02-10 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 11:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-11 10:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Spectre v2 updates Ingo Molnar
2018-02-11 15:19 ` [PATCH v2.1] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 18:50   ` [PATCH] x86/speculation: Clean up various Spectre related details Ingo Molnar
2018-02-11 19:25     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-11 19:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-12 15:30         ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  8:04           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-11 19:19   ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-02-12  5:59     ` afzal mohammed
2018-02-12 16:30       ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 10:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-12 11:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-12 12:27         ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 13:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13  7:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-12 12:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-12 16:13       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2018-02-12 16:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-13  7:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-14  1:49             ` Tim Chen
2018-02-14  8:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-14  8:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-14 19:20                 ` Tim Chen
2018-02-14 23:19                   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-15  2:01                     ` Tim Chen
2018-02-14  9:31               ` [PATCH] watchdog: hpwdt: Remove spinlock acquire and BIOS calls from NMI context Ingo Molnar
2018-02-14  9:38                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-14 10:39                   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-14  9:44                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-14 18:13                   ` Jerry Hoemann
2018-02-14 23:17                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-15 17:44                       ` Jerry Hoemann
2018-02-15 19:02                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-15 19:48                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-16 18:44     ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware Tim Chen
2018-02-16 19:16       ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 23:46         ` Tim Chen
2018-02-17 10:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-19  9:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-19  9:29               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-19  9:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-19  9:44                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 10:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-19  9:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-12  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Spectre v2 updates Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13  7:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-19 10:50 [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/speculation: Use IBRS if available before calling into firmware David Woodhouse
2018-02-20 10:29 ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse

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