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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: jejb@linux.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tpm: add backend for mssim
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 07:28:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a990f3c8-cca9-86ff-6995-6e49ba90f839@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5xH/0bbgFzi+G//@redhat.com>



On 12/16/22 05:27, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 03:53:43PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/15/22 15:30, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2022-12-15 at 15:22 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>>> On 12/15/22 15:07, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> don't really have much interest in the migration use case, but I
>>>>> knew it should work like the passthrough case, so that's what I
>>>>> tested.
>>>>
>>>> I think your device needs to block migrations since it doesn't handle
>>>> all migration scenarios correctly.
>>>
>>> Passthrough doesn't block migrations either, presumably because it can
>>> also be made to work if you know what you're doing.  I might not be
>>
>> Don't compare it to passthrough, compare it to swtpm. It should
>> have at least the same features as swtpm or be better, otherwise
>> I don't see why we need to have the backend device in the upstream
>> repo.
> 
> James has explained multiple times that mssim is a beneficial
> thing to support, given that it is the reference implementation
> of TPM2. Requiring the same or greater features than swtpm is
> an unreasonable thing to demand.

Nevertheless it needs documentation and has to handle migration scenarios either via a blocker or it has to handle them all correctly. Since it's supposed to be a TPM running remote you had asked for TLS support iirc.

   Stefan

> 
> With regards,
> Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-15 18:01 [PATCH 0/2] tpm: add mssim backend James Bottomley
2022-12-15 18:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] tpm: convert tpmdev options processing to new visitor format James Bottomley
2022-12-15 18:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm: add backend for mssim James Bottomley
2022-12-15 18:46   ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-15 19:22     ` James Bottomley
2022-12-15 19:35       ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-15 19:40         ` James Bottomley
2022-12-15 19:57           ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-15 20:07             ` James Bottomley
2022-12-15 20:22               ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-15 20:30                 ` James Bottomley
2022-12-15 20:53                   ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-16 10:27                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-16 12:28                       ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2022-12-16 12:54                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-16 13:32                           ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-16 13:53                             ` James Bottomley
2022-12-16 14:01                               ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-19 11:49                               ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-19 13:02                                 ` James Bottomley
2022-12-19 14:01                                   ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-16 14:29                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-16 14:55                               ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-16 15:48                                 ` James Bottomley
2022-12-16 16:08                                   ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-16 16:13                                     ` James Bottomley
2022-12-16 16:21                                       ` Stefan Berger
2023-01-09 16:59                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-01-09 17:43                                 ` James Bottomley
2023-01-09 17:52                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-01-09 17:55                                     ` James Bottomley
2023-01-09 18:34                                       ` Stefan Berger
2023-01-09 18:51                                         ` James Bottomley
2023-01-09 18:54                                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-01-09 18:59                                             ` James Bottomley
2023-01-09 19:01                                           ` Stefan Berger
2023-01-09 21:06                                             ` Stefan Berger
2023-01-10 14:14                                               ` James Bottomley
2023-01-10 14:47                                                 ` Stefan Berger
2023-01-10 14:55                                                   ` James Bottomley
2023-01-10 15:00                                                     ` Stefan Berger

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