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From: Tao Xu <tao3.xu@intel.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"imammedo@redhat.com" <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "lvivier@redhat.com" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	"thuth@redhat.com" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"ehabkost@redhat.com" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"sw@weilnetz.de" <sw@weilnetz.de>, "Du, Fan" <fan.du@intel.com>,
	"mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"jonathan.cameron@huawei.com" <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Liu, Jingqi" <jingqi.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 01/14] util/cutils: Add Add qemu_strtold and qemu_strtold_finite
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:37:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaac6a06-0484-ceb7-7230-77b8362744b0@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a78ispyc.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 11/26/2019 9:54 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Tao Xu <tao3.xu@intel.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi Markus,
>>
>> Do you have any comments on this patch and 02/14 05/14 06/14.
>> Thank you!
> 
> These provide a new QAPI built-in type 'time'.  It's like 'uint64' with
> an implied nanoseconds unit, and additional convenience syntax in the
> opts visitor and the keyval qobject input visitor.  Patterned after
> 'size'.
> 
> The only use of 'time' so far is member @latency of NumaOptions member
> @hmap-lb.  Uses of that:
> 
> * QMP command set-numa-node
> 
>    The convenience syntax does not apply, as QMP uses the regular qobject
>    input visitor, not the keyval one.
> 
> * CLI option -numa
> 
>    We first parse the option argument with QemuOpts, then convert it to
>    NumaOptions with the opts visitor.
> 
>    The new built-in type 'time' gets used in -numa hmat-lb,...,latency=T
> 
> Questions / observations:
> 
> * The keyval qobject input visitor's support for 'time' appears to be
>    unused for now.
> 
> * What's the anticipated range of values for -numa
>    hmat-lb,...,latency=T?  I'm asking because I wonder whether we really
>    need convenience syntax there.
> 
> * Sure you want fractions?
> 
>    Supporting fractions for byte counts (e.g.  1.5G) has been a mixed
>    blessing, to put it charitably.
> 
>    Use of fractions that aren't representable as double is not advisable.
>    For instance, 1.1G is 1181116006 bytes rounded from
>    1181116006.4000001.  Why would anybody want that?
> 
>    Use of "nice" fractions is unproblematic, but the additional
>    convenience is rather minor.  Is being able to write 1536M as 1.5G
>    worth the trouble?  Meh.
> 
>    With "metric" rather than "binary" suffixes, fractions provide even
>    less convenience: 1.5ms vs. 1500us.
> 
>    The implementation is limited to 53 bits of precision, which has been
>    a source of confusion.  Even that has arguably taken far more patches
>    than it's worth.  We're now talking about more patches to lift the
>    restriction.  Meh.
> 
>    What exactly are we trying to achieve by supporting fractions?
> 
> * What about all the other time-valued things in the QAPI schema?
> 
>    There are many more, and some of them are also visible in CLI or HMP.
>    By providing convenience syntax for just -numa hmat-lb,...,latency=T,
>    we create inconsistency.
> 
>    To avoid it, we'd have to hunt down all the others.  But some of them
>    aren't in nanoseconds.  Your new built-in type 'time' is only
>    applicable to the ones in nanoseconds.  Do we need more built-in
>    types?
> 
> This series is at v17.  I really, really want to tell you it's ready for
> merging.  But as you see, I can't.
> 
> Maybe the convenience syntax is a good idea, maybe it's a bad idea.  But
> it's definitely not a must-have idea.
> 
> If you want to pursue the idea, I recommend to split this series in two:
> one part without the convenience, and a second part adding it.
> Hopefully, we can then merge the first part without too much fuss.  The
> second part will have to deal with the questions above.
> 
> You can also shelve the idea, i.e. do just the first part now.  It's
> what I'd do.
> 
Thank you for your suggestion and support! Considering ACPI HMAT can 
only store unsigned integer data, and for the memory latency nanoseconds 
is enough. So we can use integer for latency data. I am wondering if we 
can use this solution:

* Still add builtin type time, but use qemu_strtou64() to parse.
* Still refactor do_strtosz() to support suffixes list, but add a extra 
parameter to decide use qemu_strtou64() or qemu_strtod_finite(), so time 
use qemu_strtou64() and qemu_strtod_finite()
* Second part dealing with the questions.

Then the only influence on HMAT patch is we need add a comments to tell 
user to input integer.




  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-22  7:48 [PATCH v17 00/14] Build ACPI Heterogeneous Memory Attribute Table (HMAT) Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 01/14] util/cutils: Add Add qemu_strtold and qemu_strtold_finite Tao Xu
2019-11-25  1:05   ` Tao Xu
2019-11-26 13:54     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-27  4:37       ` Tao Xu [this message]
2019-11-27  6:44         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-27  7:22           ` Tao Xu
2019-11-25  6:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 02/14] util/cutils: Use qemu_strtold_finite to parse size Tao Xu
2019-11-25  6:56   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-26  8:31     ` Tao Xu
2019-11-26  9:33       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 03/14] util/cutils: refactor do_strtosz() to support suffixes list Tao Xu
2019-11-25  7:20   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-25 12:15     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-26 10:04       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-26 10:33         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-11-26 12:37           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-26 15:46         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-26 10:27   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 04/14] util/cutils: Add qemu_strtotime_ns() Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 05/14] qapi: Add builtin type time Tao Xu
2019-11-25  8:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 06/14] tests: Add test for QAPI " Tao Xu
2019-11-25  9:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 07/14] numa: Extend CLI to provide initiator information for numa nodes Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 08/14] numa: Extend CLI to provide memory latency and bandwidth information Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 09/14] numa: Extend CLI to provide memory side cache information Tao Xu
2019-11-22 12:21   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 10/14] hmat acpi: Build Memory Proximity Domain Attributes Structure(s) Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 11/14] hmat acpi: Build System Locality Latency and Bandwidth Information Structure(s) Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 12/14] hmat acpi: Build Memory Side Cache " Tao Xu
2019-11-22 12:32   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-25  1:10     ` Tao Xu
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 13/14] tests/numa: Add case for QMP build HMAT Tao Xu
2019-11-22 12:45   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-22  7:48 ` [PATCH v17 14/14] tests/bios-tables-test: add test cases for ACPI HMAT Tao Xu
2019-11-22  8:41 ` [PATCH v17 00/14] Build ACPI Heterogeneous Memory Attribute Table (HMAT) no-reply
2019-11-22  9:17 ` no-reply
2019-11-22 12:38   ` Igor Mammedov
2019-11-25  1:08     ` Tao Xu

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