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From: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>, Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Meng Xu <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@citrix.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 13/60] xen/sched: move some per-vcpu items to struct sched_unit
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 08:29:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae74f899-b3ea-6349-5352-88b07c0dc9d8@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ace01bb733d0dd624b9e9ee07c5da4f5567a8a8a.camel@suse.com>

On 02.07.2019 10:21, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-07-02 at 07:54 +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 02.07.2019 08:30, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 01.07.19 17:46, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, that's indeed what I was deducing, but how will we sell this
>>>> to people actually fiddling with vCPU affinities? I foresee
>>>> getting
>>>> bug reports that the respective xl command(s) do(es)n't do
>>>> anymore
>>>> what it used to do.
>>>
>>> The new behavior must be documented, sure.
>>
>> Documentation is just one aspect. Often enough people only read docs
>> when wanting to introduce new functionality, which I consider a fair
>> model. Such people will be caught by surprise that the pinning
>> behavior does not work the same way anymore.
>>
> That is indeed the case, and we need to think about how to address it,
> I agree.
> 
>> And again - if someone pins every vCPU to a single pCPU, that last
>> such pinning operation will be what takes long term effect. Aiui all
>> vCPU-s in the unit will then be pinned to that one pCPU, i.e.
>> they'll either all compete for the one pCPU's time, or only one of
>> them will ever get scheduled.
>>
> I'm not sure I'm getting this. On an, say, SMT system, with 4 threads
> per core, a unit is 4 vCPUs and a pCPU is 4 threads.

No, the meaning of pCPU is a single thread of a single core. I.e.
what is represented by a single cpumask_t bit.

Jan
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-02  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-01 14:08 [Xen-devel] [PATCH 13/60] xen/sched: move some per-vcpu items to struct sched_unit Jan Beulich
2019-07-01 15:10 ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-01 15:46   ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02  6:30     ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-02  7:54       ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02  8:14         ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-02  8:27           ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02  8:44             ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-02  9:05               ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02  9:16                 ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-02  8:21         ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-02  8:29           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2019-07-02  9:40             ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-02 10:01               ` Jan Beulich
2019-07-02 10:25                 ` Juergen Gross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-05-28 10:32 [PATCH 00/60] xen: add core scheduling support Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 13/60] xen/sched: move some per-vcpu items to struct sched_unit Juergen Gross
2019-05-28 10:32   ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  7:18     ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13  7:29       ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  7:34         ` Andrii Anisov
2019-06-13  8:39           ` Juergen Gross
2019-06-13  8:49             ` Andrii Anisov

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