From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757353Ab2C1Amu (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:42:50 -0400 Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([76.13.13.47]:34115 "HELO smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1755999Ab2C1Amt (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:42:49 -0400 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: uPUNXoQVM1llOzQCWD2GylnbWfzLPWP_8eveS.rTwQmZVdg o.Grj4TyTZhVLb88j5E0X0cf8Bz9PYn4kqT6hvbVjHe743vpzKvj67JMmlIO JIzJiQzu.BpAsFpOGtdr0ZqUy9ObNxy9uWfHy953DC3gMWL6SvS0g3eBVzR9 EuePN5PWfs4yZ0nMYZ2L1FGzsZ3_N2dyhMgYvyjg1AKZoWQOAx2K7CuSz5oq 7CfUCr7l3xX8o6zjDuCSM2jzkFvu1UjOWO7jD_tmax7r5_m0g2OeswBzNkTL TOLAxQBOKnHRou4gIaBnDEJzpQ4Uka5cWdqNuZ2J2XMx.D4Uyle3a7Q0gzZg GOPcA_BSzKu886tkWdyyaboDDAbP.jqYlaVAPLIopPCqPa0Y4EW0hnQ37W.o _rVNvKVrwp_MUq9Xy_jlXUOs.q7kIeadW5F4y X-Yahoo-SMTP: _Dag8S.swBC1p4FJKLCXbs8NQzyse1SYSgnAbY0- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:42:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Christoph Lameter X-X-Sender: cl@router.home To: Steven Rostedt cc: Frederic Weisbecker , LKML , linaro-sched-sig@lists.linaro.org, Alessio Igor Bogani , Andrew Morton , Avi Kivity , Chris Metcalf , Daniel Lezcano , Geoff Levand , Gilad Ben Yossef , Ingo Molnar , Max Krasnyansky , "Paul E. McKenney" , Peter Zijlstra , Stephen Hemminger , Sven-Thorsten Dietrich , Thomas Gleixner , Zen Lin Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/32] nohz/cpuset: Don't turn off the tick if rcu needs it In-Reply-To: <1332865469.23924.129.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> Message-ID: References: <1332338318-5958-1-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <1332338318-5958-13-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com> <20120327121341.GE13196@somewhere> <1332865469.23924.129.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 27 Mar 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 11:13 -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote: > > > Please do not use "realtime" since I am not sure what you mean by that. > > Its for a low latency applications that cannot use "realtime" because that > > implies high latencies. > > This statement totally confuses me, as the whole point of the -rt > (realtime) patch, is for lower latencies. Where do you get "realtime" > implies high latencies from? Obviously compiling a kernel with preemptiong introduces additional overhead to guarantee more deterministic behavior. Additional overhead increases latencies generated by the OS in general. Compile a kernel without preemption and it will run faster and thus have lower latencies. Realtime avoids high latency spikes but in general increases average OS latencies.