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From: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
To: Mark Nelson <mnelson@redhat.com>
Cc: Somnath Roy <Somnath.Roy@sandisk.com>,
	"Chen, Xiaoxi" <xiaoxi.chen@intel.com>,
	Haomai Wang <haomaiwang@gmail.com>,
	ceph-devel <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding newstore performance
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:46:01 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1504170844161.18547@cobra.newdream.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5530F843.6050708@redhat.com>

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, Mark Nelson wrote:
> On 04/16/2015 07:38 PM, Sage Weil wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Mark Nelson wrote:
> > > On 04/16/2015 01:17 AM, Somnath Roy wrote:
> > > > Here is the data with omap separated to another SSD and after 1000GB of
> > > > fio
> > > > writes (same profile)..
> > > > 
> > > > omap writes:
> > > > -------------
> > > > 
> > > > Total host writes in this period = 551020111 ------ ~2101 GB
> > > > 
> > > > Total flash writes in this period = 1150679336
> > > > 
> > > > data writes:
> > > > -----------
> > > > 
> > > > Total host writes in this period = 302550388 --- ~1154 GB
> > > > 
> > > > Total flash writes in this period = 600238328
> > > > 
> > > > So, actual data write WA is ~1.1 but omap overhead is ~2.1 and adding
> > > > those
> > > > getting ~3.2 WA overall.
> > 
> > This all suggests that getting rocksdb to not rewrite the wal
> > entries at all will be the big win.  I think Xiaoxi had tunable
> > suggestions for that?  I didn't grok the rocksdb terms immediately so
> > they didn't make a lot of sense at the time.. this is probably a good
> > place to focus, though.  The rocksdb compaction stats should help out
> > there.
> > 
> > But... today I ignored this entirely and put rocksdb in tmpfs and focused
> > just on the actual wal IOs done to the fragments files after the fact.
> > For simplicity I focused just on 128k random writes into 4mb objects.
> > 
> > fio can get ~18 mb/sec on my disk with iodepth=1.  Interestingly, setting
> > iodepth=16 makes no different *until* I also set thinktime=10 (us, or
> > almost any value really) and thinktime_blocks=16, at which point it goes
> > up with the iodepth.  I'm not quite sure what is going on there but it
> > seems to be preventing the elevator and/or disk from reordering writes and
> > make more efficient sweeps across the disk.  In any case, though, with
> > that tweaked I can get up to ~30mb/sec with qd 16, ~40mb/sec with qd 64.
> > Similarly, with qa 1 and thinktime of 250us, it drops to like 15mb/sec,
> > which is basically what I was getting from newstore.  Here's my fio
> > config:
> > 
> > 	http://fpaste.org/212110/42923089/
> 
> 
> Yikes!  That is a great observation Sage!
> 
> > 
> > Conclusion: we need multiple threads (or libaio) to get lots of IOs in
> > flight so that the block layer and/or disk can reorder and be efficient.
> > I added a threadpool for doing wal work (newstore wal threads = 8 by
> > default) and it makes a big difference.  Now I am getting more like
> > 19mb/sec w/ 4 threads and client (smalliobench) qd 16.  It's not going up
> > much from there as I scale threads or qd, strangely; not sure why yet.
> > 
> > But... that's a big improvement over a few days ago (~8mb/sec).  And on
> > this drive filestore with journal on ssd gets ~8.5mb/sec.  So we're
> > winning, yay!
> > 
> > I tabled the libaio patch for now since it was getting spurious EINVAL and
> > would consistently SIGBUG from io_getevents() when ceph-osd did dlopen()
> > on the rados plugins (weird!).
> > 
> > Mark, at this point it is probably worth checking that you can reproduce
> > these results?  If so, we can redo the io size sweep.  I picked 8 wal
> > threads since that was enough to help and going higher didn't seem to make
> > much difference, but at some point we'll want to be more careful about
> > picking that number.  We could also use libaio here, but I'm not sure it's
> > worth it.  And this approach is somewhat orthogonal to the idea of
> > efficiently passing the kernel things to fdatasync.
> 
> Absolutely!  I'll get some tests running now.  Looks like everyone is jumping
> on the libaio bandwagon which naively seems like the right way to me too.  Can
> you talk a little bit more about how you'd see fdatasync work in this case
> though vs the threaded implementation?

That I'm not certain about, not sure if I need O_DSYNC or if the libaio 
fsync hook actually works; the docs are ambiguous.

> > Anyway, next up is probably wrangling rocksdb's log!
> 
> I jumped on #rocksdb on freenode yesterday to ask about it, but I think we'll
> probably just need to hit the mailing list.

This appears to be the place to reach rocksdb folks:

	https://www.facebook.com/groups/rocksdb.dev/

sage

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-17 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-15  6:01 Regarding newstore performance Somnath Roy
2015-04-15 12:23 ` Haomai Wang
2015-04-15 16:07   ` Somnath Roy
2015-04-16  1:47     ` Chen, Xiaoxi
2015-04-16  4:22       ` Somnath Roy
2015-04-16  6:17         ` Somnath Roy
2015-04-16 18:17           ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-17  0:38             ` Sage Weil
2015-04-17  0:47               ` Gregory Farnum
2015-04-17  0:53                 ` Sage Weil
2015-04-17  0:55                 ` Chen, Xiaoxi
2015-04-17  4:53               ` Haomai Wang
2015-04-17 15:28                 ` Sage Weil
2015-04-17 12:10               ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-17 14:08                 ` Chen, Xiaoxi
2015-04-17 14:20                   ` Haomai Wang
2015-04-17 14:29                     ` Chen, Xiaoxi
2015-04-17 14:34                       ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-17 14:40                 ` Chen, Xiaoxi
2015-04-17 15:25                   ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-17 16:05                     ` Sage Weil
2015-04-17 16:59                       ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-17 15:46                 ` Sage Weil [this message]
2015-04-18  3:34                   ` Mark Nelson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-13 23:53 Somnath Roy
2015-04-14  0:06 ` Mark Nelson
2015-04-14  0:12   ` Somnath Roy
2015-04-14  0:21     ` Mark Nelson

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