From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754047Ab1HQUWi (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:22:38 -0400 Received: from mail.lang.hm ([64.81.33.126]:58654 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753926Ab1HQUWf (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:22:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Jeremiah Foster cc: Greg KH , Ben Hutchings , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, stable-review@kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Debian kernel maintainers Subject: Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them). In-Reply-To: <056B8993-8B70-470A-AFDD-53F587AF3312@jeremiahfoster.com> Message-ID: References: <20110815041524.GA7578@kroah.com> <1313460542.2981.76.camel@deadeye> <17669FB8-C6FF-4B1F-9765-F1FD991D14CB@jeremiahfoster.com> <20110816223327.GA1534@kroah.com> <056B8993-8B70-470A-AFDD-53F587AF3312@jeremiahfoster.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> Do they need help from the community >> instead to help define, implement, and maintain this for them? > > I think the answer is yes. > to expand on this a bit. it's a lot easier to look at changelogs and see if a -stable or -longterm update is relavent to your systems than it is to watch the flood of merges to the latest kerenl and then figure out how to backport them. BUt people who start up just compiling their own kernels frequently become testers, if not contributers to the kernel. If everyone only runs the distro kernels, then the upstream kernel quality will suffer because nobody is testing it. people running -longterm kernels on their productionsystems will not be testing the llatest -rc kernel on those systems, but they are likely to be more interested in watching and testng new kernel releases (at least on lab machines) than people who just wait for things to be backported to the distro kernel. David Lang