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From: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@calxeda.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Anup Patel <apatel@apm.com>,
	Pranavkumar Sawargaonkar <psawargaonkar@apm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools: libxc: flush data cache after loading images into guest memory
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:01:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312131200020.8667@kaball.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386923172.20787.65.camel@dagon.hellion.org.uk>

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 00:49 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > 
> > On 12/12/2013 02:23 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > On ARM guest OSes are started with MMU and Caches disables (as they are on
> > > native) however caching is enabled in the domain running the builder and
> > > therefore we must flush the cache as we load the blobs, otherwise when the
> > > guest starts running it may not see them. The dom0 build in the hypervisor has
> > > the same requirements and already does the right thing.
> > >
> > > The mechanism for performing a cache flush from userspace is OS specific, so
> > > implement this as a new osdep hook:
> > >
> > >   - On 32-bit ARM Linux provides a system call to flush the cache.
> > >   - On 64-bit ARM Linux the processor is configured to allow cache flushes
> > >     directly from userspace.
> > >   - Non-Linux platforms will need to provide their own implementation. If
> > >     similar mechanisms are not available then a new privcmd ioctl should be a
> > >     suitable alternative.
> > >
> > > No cache maintenance is required on x86, so provide a stub for all non-Linux
> > > platforms which returns success on x86 only and log an error otherwise.
> > >
> > > This fixes guest building on Xgene which has a very large L3 cache and so is
> > > particularly susceptible to this problem. It has also been observed
> > > sporadically on midway.
> > 
> > This patch doesn't solve issue on Midway.
> 
> That's a shame. I think we should go ahead with this patch regardless,
> since it does fix arm64 and introduces the infrastructure for arm32. I
> think there is no harm in adding the syscall on arm32 for now.

I agree.
I wonder if QEMU (qdisk) is going to need similar cache flushes.


> > cacheflush syscall on ARM32 is calling DCCMVAU (Data Clean Cache by MVA
> > to PoU), that is not enough.
> > As I understand the ARM ARM B2.2.6 (page B2-1275):
> >      - PoC means the data will be written to the RAM
> >      - PoU means, in a same inner shareable domain, instruction/data
> > cache and translation page table will see the same value for a specific
> > MVA. It doesn't means that the data will reach the RAM.
> 
> This is essentially my understanding as well.
> 
> > I did some test and indeed DCCMVAC (Data Clean Cache By MVA to PoC)
> > resolves the problem on Midway (and generally on ARMv7).
> 
> Good.
> 
> > Unfortunately Linux doesn't provide any syscall to call this function
> > for ARMv7 and it's not possible to call cache instruction from
> > userspace. What we could do is:
> >      - Use the "flags" parameters of cacheflush syscall and call a
> > function which DCCMVAC (for instance __cpuc_flush_dcache_area)
> >      - Extend privcmd to have a flush cache ioctl
> 
> Personally I think the first is nicer, but ultimately we need input from
> l-a-k on this one and would be happy with either.

I agree. Can you try to come up with such a patch?

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-13 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12 12:21 [PATCH] tools: libxc: flush data cache after loading images into guest memory Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 14:11 ` Julien Grall
2013-12-12 14:23 ` [PATCH v2] " Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 14:30   ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-12 14:37     ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 14:45       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-12 14:49         ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 17:31   ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 17:52     ` Ian Jackson
2013-12-12 19:32       ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-12 19:43         ` Ian Jackson
2013-12-12 17:33   ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-13  0:49   ` Julien Grall
2013-12-13  8:26     ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-13 12:01       ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2013-12-13 12:53         ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-16  0:49           ` Julien Grall
2013-12-16 11:05             ` Ian Campbell

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