From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757455AbcIVOs5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:48:57 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([146.0.238.70]:38415 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756879AbcIVOsx (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:48:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:46:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Davidlohr Bueso cc: Peter Zijlstra , Waiman Long , Mike Galbraith , Ingo Molnar , Jonathan Corbet , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jason Low , Scott J Norton , Douglas Hatch Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] futex: Throughput-optimized (TO) futexes In-Reply-To: <20160922144123.GB13358@linux-80c1.suse> Message-ID: References: <1474378963-15496-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hpe.com> <1474378963-15496-4-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hpe.com> <1474441172.27308.19.camel@gmail.com> <57E319BE.2050208@hpe.com> <20160922074932.GV5008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160922144123.GB13358@linux-80c1.suse> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Davidlohr Bueso wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > Also what's the reason that we can't do probabilistic spinning for > > FUTEX_WAIT and have to add yet another specialized variant of futexes? > > Where would this leave the respective FUTEX_WAKE? A nop? Probably have to > differentiate the fact that the queue was empty, but there was a spinning, > instead of straightforward returning 0. Sorry, but I really can't parse this answer. Can you folks please communicate with proper and coherent explanations instead of throwing a few gnawed off bones in my direction? Thanks, tglx