From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15BAA8E3 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90177A6 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:13:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Julia Lawall To: Linus Torvalds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20170804022639.p27oliuinqqatar2@thunk.org> <20170804160454.GC13098@kroah.com> <20170814154910.249caf70@gandalf.local.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC] ABI feature gates? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, 14 Aug 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 09:04:54 -0700 > > Greg KH wrote: > > > > > >> We could start searching linux-next for new additions of sysfs files > >> (search for the ATTR macros), and complain that there are no matching > >> Documentation/ABI/ updates at the same time. I try to do that when > >> reviewing patches that come through my trees, but yes, this is hard to > >> keep up to date with. > >> > >> Sounds like a good GSoC project though, setting up the infrastructure to > >> do this in a semi-automated fashion. > > > > And perhaps do the same for new tracepoints. > > Honestly, the *real* issue has traditionally been new ioctl's, not so > much sysfs files or tracepoints. > > People add random device-specific crud that then has issues with > alignment or word size. In terms of documentation, there are around 2500 names defined using _IOW, _IOR, or _IOWR, and around 500 of them are mentioned somewhere in Documentation. julia