Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help

[Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>]

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Hi Steve,

A sprint sounds like a good idea. Xilinx would be very happy to host it
here in San Jose, both March 2-6 (preferred) or March 9-13 would work.

Otherwise, it would be challenging for Tomas and me to join a meeting in
Europe outside of Linaro Connect. I know you suggested to rule out
Linaro Connect, but I think we could make it work as a focused colocated
event in Budapest the same week. Could that be an option?

Cheers,

Stefano


On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey Loic,
> 
> Cool, that's very helpful thanks! :-)
> 
> I'm building a spreadsheet of possible dates now as people share their
> availability. </hint>
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:48:45PM +0000, Loic PALLARDY wrote:
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >Sure, ST is interested to participate to a sprint on System Device tree definition.
> >I can propose ST Le Mans office to host this event in Europe (Direct train access from CDG airport, only 5min by walk from train station).
> >	
> >Regards,
> >Loic
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Nathalie Chan King Choy
> >> Sent: jeudi 6 février 2020 18:48
> >> To: Francois Ozog <francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Steve McIntyre
> >> <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> >> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce
> >> Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob
> >> Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>;
> >> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson
> >> <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help
> >> 
> >> Hi Steve,
> >> 
> >> Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the
> >> CC list were:
> >> Loic from ST
> >> Etsam & Dan from MGC
> >> Tomas from Xilinx
> >> 
> >> @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested?
> >> 
> >> Thanks & regards,
> >> Nathalie
> >> 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org> On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM
> >> > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> >> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce
> >> > Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob
> >> > Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>;
> >> > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson
> >> > <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org; Arnd Bergmann
> >> > <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help
> >> >
> >> > EXTERNAL EMAIL
> >> >
> >> > count me in.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre@linaro.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi all!
> >> > >
> >> > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ]
> >> > >
> >> > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT
> >> > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took
> >> the
> >> > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended
> >> > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System
> >> > > DT design work.
> >> > >
> >> > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of
> >> > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share
> >> > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt
> >> > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has
> >> > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things
> >> > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk
> >> > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex
> >> > > layouts. And so on.
> >> > >
> >> > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably
> >> > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together
> >> > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed
> >> > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all
> >> > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes
> >> > > ready to evaluate.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely
> >> > > keen to be involved. Anybody else?
> >> > >
> >> > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March,
> >> > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of
> >> > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many
> >> > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that.
> >> > >
> >> > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and
> >> > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time
> >> > > in the next 2-3 months:
> >> > >
> >> > >  * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th
> >> > >    March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the
> >> > >    UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting.
> >> > >
> >> > >  * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding
> >> > >    the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6
> >> > >    or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice,
> >> > >    of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or
> >> > >    another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make
> >> > > something work here?