From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAE2C4741F for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F120708 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2387476AbgI2Mpn (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:43 -0400 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:37866 "EHLO mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2387503AbgI2Moi (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:44:38 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.77,318,1596492000"; d="scan'208";a="470059088" Received: from abo-173-121-68.mrs.modulonet.fr (HELO hadrien) ([85.68.121.173]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Julia Lawall X-X-Sender: jll@hadrien To: Mark Brown cc: Julia Lawall , Joe Perches , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jerome Brunet , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, David Lechner , =?UTF-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, Martin Blumenstingl , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Neil Armstrong Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] use semicolons rather than commas to separate statements In-Reply-To: <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <1601233948-11629-1-git-send-email-Julia.Lawall@inria.fr> <160132172369.55460.9237357219623604216.b4-ty@kernel.org> <20200929113745.GB4799@sirena.org.uk> <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (DEB 394 2020-01-19) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 01:46:19PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Feel free to submit patches to b4. Ideally things like this wouldn't be > > > being sent as serieses in the first place, there's no dependencies or > > > interactions between the patches. > > > It was suggested (a long time ago, not with respect to this patch in > > particular) that sending such patches in a series is useful because it > > allows people who are not interested in the 18 patches to skip over them > > more easily. So there are two conflicting needs... > > I'm not convinced that there are huge numbers of people reading LKML as > a list TBH, and if you are sending things as a series then the way > you're doing it at the minute where you don't CC the cover letter to > people makes things confusing as it's unclear if there are dependencies > to worry about. The cover letter goes to all of the specific mailing lists affected by the patch, or if there is no list, then to at least one developer. Sending the cover letter to everyone would lead to too many recipients for some lists. If there is a preference for the rest of these patches to be sent one by one, then that is possible. julia From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Julia Lawall Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] use semicolons rather than commas to separate statements Message-Id: List-Id: References: <1601233948-11629-1-git-send-email-Julia.Lawall@inria.fr> <160132172369.55460.9237357219623604216.b4-ty@kernel.org> <20200929113745.GB4799@sirena.org.uk> <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mark Brown Cc: Julia Lawall , Joe Perches , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jerome Brunet , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, David Lechner , =?UTF-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, Martin Blumenstingl , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Neil Armstrong On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 01:46:19PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Feel free to submit patches to b4. Ideally things like this wouldn't be > > > being sent as serieses in the first place, there's no dependencies or > > > interactions between the patches. > > > It was suggested (a long time ago, not with respect to this patch in > > particular) that sending such patches in a series is useful because it > > allows people who are not interested in the 18 patches to skip over them > > more easily. So there are two conflicting needs... > > I'm not convinced that there are huge numbers of people reading LKML as > a list TBH, and if you are sending things as a series then the way > you're doing it at the minute where you don't CC the cover letter to > people makes things confusing as it's unclear if there are dependencies > to worry about. The cover letter goes to all of the specific mailing lists affected by the patch, or if there is no list, then to at least one developer. Sending the cover letter to everyone would lead to too many recipients for some lists. If there is a preference for the rest of these patches to be sent one by one, then that is possible. julia From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A736CC4727F for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43F1B20708 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="yD+6FKic" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 43F1B20708 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=inria.fr Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=zieff8nkIbu/OW2gijICZQM97ft440E1++zt5WVeI8I=; b=yD+6FKicfQ2wqX324/O2OTTso 0t+Lka0cbzfHWCoAj73AyS2OM5yJIi+N8uHA+NAcVsI1L8TNDBEFrTjSaXxXp0CiGrXbmuNb422DQ yT2sOwQVwZIeWSkuAX2FHQ4hbUr/yy/evPe7bxAO+/hsKslcVf1/XfvY/fmlCmJK1hbNBALAEUm0D KMyDg1N19LV8BbpnNVH4PnsnD2MRJUbmJhCB3VMfpKzSmB5SySz3DOxcUQKit35je8dfVCIMi+o2X 6FApalTbmCH7nwQtxrnf4KovgCc8kCg0mSt7YqvJQu8TMS72/lf+PfO6PTjulf6umzHVgMS/EYLON uXIgpFaXQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kNEzo-0007kH-Nr; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:41 +0000 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kNEzf-0007hU-O4; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:32 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.77,318,1596492000"; d="scan'208";a="470059088" Received: from abo-173-121-68.mrs.modulonet.fr (HELO hadrien) ([85.68.121.173]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Julia Lawall X-X-Sender: jll@hadrien To: Mark Brown Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] use semicolons rather than commas to separate statements In-Reply-To: <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <1601233948-11629-1-git-send-email-Julia.Lawall@inria.fr> <160132172369.55460.9237357219623604216.b4-ty@kernel.org> <20200929113745.GB4799@sirena.org.uk> <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (DEB 394 2020-01-19) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200929_084431_951181_8F798F38 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 21.54 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, Neil Armstrong , linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Jerome Brunet , David Lechner , Martin Blumenstingl , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Julia Lawall , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Joe Perches , openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 01:46:19PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Feel free to submit patches to b4. Ideally things like this wouldn't be > > > being sent as serieses in the first place, there's no dependencies or > > > interactions between the patches. > > > It was suggested (a long time ago, not with respect to this patch in > > particular) that sending such patches in a series is useful because it > > allows people who are not interested in the 18 patches to skip over them > > more easily. So there are two conflicting needs... > > I'm not convinced that there are huge numbers of people reading LKML as > a list TBH, and if you are sending things as a series then the way > you're doing it at the minute where you don't CC the cover letter to > people makes things confusing as it's unclear if there are dependencies > to worry about. The cover letter goes to all of the specific mailing lists affected by the patch, or if there is no list, then to at least one developer. Sending the cover letter to everyone would lead to too many recipients for some lists. If there is a preference for the rest of these patches to be sent one by one, then that is possible. julia _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F4CC4727C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 103422064E for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="nVjrSMwt" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 103422064E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=inria.fr Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-amlogic-bounces+linux-amlogic=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=QgNAa+3J4eQiiJox8dE2pSBr51U9VfRbWYcI9oi4Xeo=; b=nVjrSMwtu69ovWy8EtvAJIiwk FSnWg3tgSPPYZnOUMB488jFyvlPpW5GSJxTQPEntsKGupcidiqcVS3NLfeRABFo9iJZFc/1++28g5 Eh9Ks7hREpxijusZBVu5dLH9QR7BTZwmw/NjFVOeZg/1pkzFVPQ9RTPi8ZIFK+mR3O6e+tcusdS5U jDaUYF63rxlSMTfek4C4+58ACd8fum/xUuAGqJUJ6A3NochP9IQh9UtsQLWiDXcmoLCvB2WmIgryX aLKqBhU9Dd7QcSUCmlqLuo57+pzcji9X59ATp+Xl+JCJKVjrF+hXfZ51rpw+/OYsASD0xcOD6Z/5k cLT5sb7aA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kNEzj-0007j3-IZ; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:35 +0000 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kNEzf-0007hU-O4; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:32 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.77,318,1596492000"; d="scan'208";a="470059088" Received: from abo-173-121-68.mrs.modulonet.fr (HELO hadrien) ([85.68.121.173]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:44:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Julia Lawall X-X-Sender: jll@hadrien To: Mark Brown Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] use semicolons rather than commas to separate statements In-Reply-To: <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <1601233948-11629-1-git-send-email-Julia.Lawall@inria.fr> <160132172369.55460.9237357219623604216.b4-ty@kernel.org> <20200929113745.GB4799@sirena.org.uk> <20200929123734.GC4799@sirena.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.22 (DEB 394 2020-01-19) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200929_084431_951181_8F798F38 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 21.54 ) X-BeenThere: linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, Neil Armstrong , linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Jerome Brunet , David Lechner , Martin Blumenstingl , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Valdis_Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Julia Lawall , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Joe Perches , openipmi-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-amlogic" Errors-To: linux-amlogic-bounces+linux-amlogic=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 01:46:19PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > Feel free to submit patches to b4. Ideally things like this wouldn't be > > > being sent as serieses in the first place, there's no dependencies or > > > interactions between the patches. > > > It was suggested (a long time ago, not with respect to this patch in > > particular) that sending such patches in a series is useful because it > > allows people who are not interested in the 18 patches to skip over them > > more easily. So there are two conflicting needs... > > I'm not convinced that there are huge numbers of people reading LKML as > a list TBH, and if you are sending things as a series then the way > you're doing it at the minute where you don't CC the cover letter to > people makes things confusing as it's unclear if there are dependencies > to worry about. The cover letter goes to all of the specific mailing lists affected by the patch, or if there is no list, then to at least one developer. Sending the cover letter to everyone would lead to too many recipients for some lists. If there is a preference for the rest of these patches to be sent one by one, then that is possible. julia _______________________________________________ linux-amlogic mailing list linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-amlogic