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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jing Xue <jingxue@digizenstudio.com>
Cc: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git guidance
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:19:58 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0711290810170.8458@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071129105220.v40i22q4gw4cgoso@intranet.digizenstudio.com>



On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Jing Xue wrote:
> 
> By the way, the only SCM I have worked with that tries to mount its
> repository (or a view on top of it) as a file system is ClearCase with
> its dynamic views. And, between the buggy file system implementation,
> the intrusion on workflow, and the lack of scalability, at least in
> the organization I worked for, it turned out to be a horrible,
> horrible, horrible idea.

Doing a read-only mount setup tends to be pretty easy, but it's largely 
pointless except for specialty uses. Ie it's obviously not useful for 
actual *development*, but it can be useful for some other cases.

For example, a read-only revctrl filesystem can be a _very_ useful thing 
for test-farms, where you may have hundreds of clients that run tests on 
possibly different versions at the same time. In situations like that, the 
read-only mount can actually often be done as a user-space NFS server on 
some machine.

The advantage is that you don't need to export close to infinite amounts 
of versions from a "real" filesystem, or make the clients have their own 
copies. And if you do it as a user-space NFS server (or samba, for that 
matter), it's even portable, unlike many other approaches. The read-only 
part also makes 99% of all the complexity go away, and it turns out to be 
a fairly easy exercise to do.

So I don't think the filesystem approach is _wrong_ per se. But yes, doing 
it read-write is almost invariably a big mistake. On operatign systems 
that support a "union mount" approach, it's likely much better to have a 
read-only revctl thing, and then over-mount a regular filesystem on top of 
it.

Trying to make it read-write from the revctl engine standpoint is almost 
certainly totally insane.

				Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-29 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-29 15:52 git guidance Jing Xue
2007-11-29 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-12-01  6:50   ` Al Boldi
2007-12-04 22:21     ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-07 17:35       ` Al Boldi
2007-12-06 18:24         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 18:55           ` Al Boldi
2007-12-06 20:22             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-07  4:37               ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07  8:40                 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 10:53                   ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07 11:47                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 19:04                       ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07 19:36                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-07 22:07                           ` Luke Lu
2007-12-08  4:56                           ` Al Boldi
2007-12-08  5:16                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-08 10:41                               ` Al Boldi
2007-12-08 11:13                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-07 12:30                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 21:17                     ` david
2007-12-07 22:00                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2009-08-28 12:30                       ` inotify-commit, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 21:46             ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-08  6:33     ` Martin Langhoff
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-27 22:33 Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-27 22:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-27 22:55 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-27 23:52   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-28  0:43     ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-28  0:49     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-28 12:49     ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 13:45       ` Rogan Dawes
2007-11-28 15:46         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 17:14           ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 18:14             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 18:30               ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 18:41                 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-28 18:41                   ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-29  5:27                 ` Al Boldi
2007-11-29 12:57                   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-28 13:38     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 21:20       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-28 11:23   ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 12:31     ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-27 23:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-28 15:15   ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 15:57     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 16:37       ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 19:10         ` willem
2007-11-28 19:18           ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 23:22   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-11-29 12:45     ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-29 13:03       ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-11-28  7:41 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2007-11-29 12:51   ` Tilman Schmidt

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