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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, David Rees <drees76@gmail.com>,
	Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:59:46 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903262044050.3994@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903262035270.3994@localhost.localdomain>



On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> We should aim to get it right. The "user space can tweak any numbers they 
> want" is ALWAYS THE WRONG ANSWER. It's a cop-out, but more importantly, 
> it's a cop-out that doesn't even work, and that just results in everybody 
> having different setups. Then nobody is happy.

In fact it results in "everybody" just having the distro defaults, which 
in some cases then depend on things like which particular version they 
initially installed things with (because some decisions end up being 
codified in long-term memory by that initial install - like the size of 
the journal when you mkfs'd your filesystem, or the alignment of your 
partitions, or whatever).

The exception, of course, ends up being power-users that then tweak things 
on their own.

Me, I may be a power user, but I absolutely refuse to touch default 
values. If they are wrong, they should be fixed. I don't want to add 
"relatime" to my /etc/fstab, because then the next time I install, I'll 
forget - and if I really need to do that, then the kernel should have 
already done it for me as the default choice.

I also don't want to say that "Fedora should just do it right" (I'll 
complain about things Fedora does badly, but not setting magic values in 
/proc is not one of them), because then even if Fedora _were_ to get 
things right, others won't. Or even worse, somebody will point that SuSE 
or Ubuntu _did_ do it right, but the distro I happen to use is doing the 
wrong thing.

And yes, I could do my own site-specific tweaks, but again, why should I?  
If the tweak really is needed, I should put it in the generic kernel. I 
don't do anything odd. 

End result: regardless of scenario, depending on user-land tweaking is 
always the wrong thing. It's the wrong thing for distributions (they'd all 
need to do the exact same thing anyway, or chaos reigns, so it might as 
well be a kernel default), and it's the wrong thing for individuals 
(because 99.9% of individuals won't know what to do, and the remaining 
0.1% should be trying to improve _other_ peoples experiences, not just 
their own!).

The only excuse _ever_ for user-land tweaking is if you do something 
really odd. Say that you want to get the absolutely best OLTP numbers you 
can possibly get - with no regards for _any_ other workload. In that case, 
you want to tweak the numbers for that exact load, and the exact machine 
that runs it - and the result is going to be a totally worthless number 
(since it's just benchmarketing and doesn't actually reflect any real 
world scenario), but hey, that's what benchmarketing is all about.

Or say that you really are a very embedded environment, with a very 
specific load. A router, a cellphone, a base station, whatever - you do 
one thing, and you're not trying to be a general purpose machine. Then you 
can tweak for that load. But not otherwise.

If you don't have any magical odd special workloads, you shouldn't need to 
tweak a single kernel knob. Because if you need to, then the kernel is 
doing something wrong to begin with.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-27  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 664+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-23 23:29 Linux 2.6.29 Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24  6:19 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24  6:46   ` David Rees
2009-03-24  7:32     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24  8:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 11:10         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24 19:00       ` David Rees
2009-03-25 17:42         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-25 18:16           ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:46             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-25 18:30         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 18:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 22:05             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 23:23               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 23:46                 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-26  0:32                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-27  0:11                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  0:27                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  0:47                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  1:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  1:25                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  2:21                           ` David Rees
2009-03-27  3:03                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  3:36                             ` Dave Jones
2009-03-27  3:01                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  3:38                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  3:59                             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-03-28 23:52                               ` david
2009-03-28  5:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-01 21:03                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-01 21:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-01 22:57                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 14:46                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:16                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:42                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 18:59                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04  8:18                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-04 12:40                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-05  1:57                                         ` David Newall
2009-04-05  3:46                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-02  1:00                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03  4:06                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03  4:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  7:25                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-03  8:15                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-06 21:46                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-03 14:21                                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:05                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:14                                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 19:57                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 21:28                                             ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-03 21:57                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 22:32                                                 ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-03 22:57                                                   ` David Rees
2009-04-03 23:29                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 23:52                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 22:53                                                 ` David Rees
2009-04-03 23:30                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04 16:29                                                     ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-04 23:02                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-05 14:20                                                         ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-06 14:06                                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 22:28                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-04-06 14:15                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-06 21:27                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-04-06 21:56                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-02 11:05                             ` Janne Grunau
2009-04-02 16:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 16:33                                 ` David Rees
2009-04-02 16:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 16:51                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 22:13                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 21:56                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 16:29                               ` David Rees
2009-04-02 16:42                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 16:57                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 17:04                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 22:09                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-02 22:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 22:51                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-02 23:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  2:01                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  2:16                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03  3:05                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  3:34                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 11:32                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-03 15:07                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 15:40                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-04-03 20:05                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 20:14                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 21:48                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 22:06                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-03 23:48                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-04 12:46                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-04-04 12:52                                                                   ` Huang Yuntao
2009-04-03 23:35                                                           ` Dave Jones
2009-04-04 12:44                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-04-04 21:10                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  5:05                                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-03  8:31                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  8:35                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03  2:38                                             ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03  2:54                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-03 15:14                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:18                                         ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:46                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-04-03 15:28                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-02 18:52                                   ` David Rees
2009-04-02 21:42                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-02 21:50                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-03 15:07                               ` Mark Lord
2009-04-02 12:17                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-02 21:54                               ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-04-02 23:27                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03  0:32                                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-03-27  3:23                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  3:47                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  5:13                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  5:57                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27  6:21                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 11:24                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 12:17                                     ` Linux 2.6.29 - delayed metadata for delayed allocation? Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 14:51                                     ` Linux 2.6.29 Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 15:08                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 15:22                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 16:15                                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 16:28                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 16:51                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 17:02                                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 17:19                                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 18:05                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:35                                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 19:03                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 19:14                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 19:32                                                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:11                                                             ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 22:01                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  9:58                                                             ` Neil Brown
2009-03-27 19:19                                                         ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 19:48                                                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:02                                                             ` Aaron Cohen
     [not found]                                                             ` <727e50150903271301l36cff340l33e813bf6f77b4b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-27 20:04                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 22:37                                                             ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 22:55                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-28  0:42                                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-27 18:36                                                     ` Hua Zhong
2009-03-27 17:57                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:22                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 18:32                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 18:40                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 19:00                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29  9:15                                                           ` Xavier Bestel
2009-03-29 20:16                                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29 21:07                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 19:37                                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-27 20:27                                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2009-03-27 19:43                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 20:01                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 22:20                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 21:46                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 22:06                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27 22:19                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 22:25                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  1:19                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  1:30                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-03-28  2:19                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28  2:49                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28 13:29                                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 14:17                                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28 14:35                                                                         ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 15:17                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28 16:08                                                                             ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-28 16:32                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 17:22                                                                                 ` David Hagood
2009-03-29  1:18                                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 18:45                                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2009-03-29 23:14                                                                             ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-30  0:39                                                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  1:29                                                                                 ` Trenton Adams
2009-03-30  3:28                                                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  3:55                                                                                     ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-03-30 13:45                                                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  6:31                                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-30 13:55                                                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30  7:13                                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30  9:05                                                                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-30 10:49                                                                                     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30 11:12                                                                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-03-30 11:17                                                                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 13:48                                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 14:00                                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 14:44                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 14:58                                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 15:21                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 15:27                                                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 16:13                                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 16:30                                                                                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 16:58                                                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:29                                                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 17:57                                                                                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 18:39                                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 18:52                                                                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 20:19                                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 18:54                                                                                                             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2009-03-30 15:00                                                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 15:34                                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 16:11                                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 16:34                                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:11                                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 17:39                                                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 17:51                                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 18:15                                                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 19:08                                                                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-30 19:22                                                                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-03-30 19:41                                                                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:21                                                                                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2009-03-30 20:26                                                                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:29                                                                                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:35                                                                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:40                                                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:34                                                                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:05                                                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  9:27                                                                                                     ` Neil Brown
2009-03-31 21:13                                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 21:10                                                                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31 21:55                                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 19:02                                                                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01  1:19                                                                                     ` david
2009-04-01 16:24                                                                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01 20:15                                                                                         ` david
2009-04-01 21:33                                                                                           ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 22:29                                                                                             ` david
2009-04-02  2:30                                                                                               ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-02  4:55                                                                                                 ` david
2009-04-02  5:29                                                                                                   ` Bron Gondwana
2009-04-02  9:58                                                                                                   ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-02 12:30                                                                                               ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-01 22:00                                                                                           ` Harald Arnesen
2009-04-01 22:09                                                                                             ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2009-04-01 22:28                                                                                             ` david
2009-03-30  3:01                                                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30  6:41                                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-30 12:55                                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 17:42                                                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31 23:55                                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-04-01 12:53                                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-04-01 15:41                                                                                     ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 16:02                                                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-04-01 18:37                                                                                         ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-04-01 21:50                                                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-01 23:44                                                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-28 16:25                                                                           ` Alex Goebel
2009-03-28 21:12                                                                             ` Hua Zhong
2009-03-29  8:22                                                                               ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-29  0:33                                                                 ` david
2009-03-29  1:24                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-29  3:43                                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-29  4:53                                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 15:01                                                                 ` Thierry Vignaud
2009-03-28  0:18                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  1:45                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  2:53                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  2:56                                                                   ` Zid Null
2009-03-28  3:55                                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2009-03-28 11:29                                                                     ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2009-03-28  2:16                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-28  2:38                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 11:57                                                                 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 15:20                                       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-03-27 21:11                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-28  7:45                                       ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-28  8:43                                         ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-28 21:55                                           ` Bojan Smojver
2009-03-31 21:51                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-31 22:30                                               ` Bojan Smojver
2009-04-01  5:26                                                 ` Bojan Smojver
2009-04-01  6:35                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-03 12:39                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-27  0:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  1:03                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27  9:58                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26  2:50               ` Neil Brown
2009-03-26  3:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24  9:15     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24  9:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 10:10         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 10:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 11:12             ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-24 12:23               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 13:37               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 12:37               ` Jan Kara
2009-03-25 15:00                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 17:29                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 17:57                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 18:09                     ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:21                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 18:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 18:48                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 18:49                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 18:55                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 18:58                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 19:48                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-25 21:50                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26  2:10                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26  2:36                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  2:42                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                             ` <f73f7ab80903251944s581166bbk31c26db50750814a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-26  2:46                               ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  2:51                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  3:03                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  3:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  3:57                                       ` David Miller
2009-03-26  4:58                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  6:24                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26 12:49                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-26  2:47                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26  2:54                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-25 20:45                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 21:51                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25 23:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 23:50                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  0:04                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  9:06                               ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26  9:09                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 11:08                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:27                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-26 14:36                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:49                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-26 11:37                                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 12:44                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 12:46                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:13                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 14:30                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 15:32                                       ` relatime: update once per day patches (was: ext3 IO latency measurements) Frans Pop
2009-03-26 15:47                                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 16:14                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 16:24                                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 17:12                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 17:48                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 18:49                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 19:20                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 19:43                                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-27 11:25                                                       ` David Hagood
2009-03-26 16:30                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:40                                               ` Jose Celestino
2009-03-26 17:14                                                 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 16:53                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-03-26 16:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:32                                             ` [PATCH] Allow relatime to update atime once a day Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 17:56                                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-26 18:55                                               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 14:47                                     ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:20                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:06                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-03-26 17:07                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 17:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 17:49                                             ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a strictatime mount option Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 17:53                                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Make relatime default Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 18:48                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 22:27                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27  0:15                                                     ` Frans Pop
2009-03-27  0:30                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 14:06                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27  2:05                                                     ` Frans Pop
2009-04-09 20:13                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-09 20:47                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-09 21:15                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-09 21:20                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-09 22:00                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 14:42                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-30 14:52                                                     ` Xavier Bestel
2009-03-30 19:26                                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2009-03-26 18:52                                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Add a strictatime mount option Alan Cox
2009-03-26 18:59                                             ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Alan Cox
2009-03-26 20:02                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 20:42                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 20:55                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-03-26 20:58                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 23:04                                                   ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-27 11:22                                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 12:19                                                       ` Bron Gondwana
2009-03-27 13:56                                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-27 12:00                                               ` ext3 IO latency measurements Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-03-26 17:29                                         ` ext3 IO latency measurements (was: Linux 2.6.29) Frans Pop
2009-03-26 17:32                                         ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 17:41                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 18:23                                             ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 22:24                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-27 13:47                                                 ` Bill Nottingham
2009-03-26 18:54                                           ` Alan Cox
2009-03-26 15:28                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 23:02                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 23:59                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  0:08                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27  0:40                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-31 11:51                                   ` Neil Brown
2009-03-26 12:22                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-03-26 12:23                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-03-26 14:38                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-26 18:11                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 18:35                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27 21:26                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 22:39                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26 22:57                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-27 21:38                                       ` Jan Kara
2009-03-27 22:10                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28 19:43                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-09 21:59                                 ` updated: ext3 IO latency measurements on v2.6.30-rc1 Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10  7:34                                   ` Heinz Diehl
2009-05-18 16:37                                   ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2009-03-25 23:57                             ` Linux 2.6.29 Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  0:22                               ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  1:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  2:59                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-26 16:24                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 13:20             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 13:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:51                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 16:34                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-24 17:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:20                   ` Mark Lord
2009-03-24 18:41                     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-24 13:52               ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 14:28                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 15:18                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-24 17:55                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 17:55               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:41                 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-03-24 19:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 18:45                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-24 19:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 19:40                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-24 19:55                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25  9:34                       ` Benny Halevy
2009-03-25  9:39                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 19:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 19:43                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-25 19:43                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 19:49                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 19:57                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 20:41                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26  8:57                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 14:47                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 15:46                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 18:21                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 18:32                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-26 19:00                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-26 19:03                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 20:16                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 20:25                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 21:22                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-03-26  8:59                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:05                                     ` range-based cache flushing (was Re: Linux 2.6.29) Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01  0:14                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-04-01  1:28                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01 21:20                                           ` James Bottomley
2009-03-25 21:27                                 ` Linux 2.6.29 Benny Halevy
2009-03-25 20:25                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 20:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 20:57                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-25 23:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-26  0:28                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  1:36                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-25 21:29                                 ` [PATCH] issue storage device flush via sync_blockdev() (was Re: Linux 2.6.29) Jeff Garzik
2009-03-25 21:56                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-25 23:08                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  2:31                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-26 14:19                                         ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  0:58                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  1:26                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  1:33                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  1:39                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-26  8:24                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27  7:59                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-25 22:01                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-03-25 23:12                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-26  3:24                                   ` [PATCH v2] issue storage device flush via sync_blockdev() Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  2:50                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27  3:17                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  3:30                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 20:50                                     ` [PATCH] issue storage dev flush from generic file_fsync helper Jeff Garzik
2009-03-29  8:25                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-30  1:25                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:36                                           ` [PATCH 1/5] block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:40                                           ` [PATCH 2/5] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:51                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30  2:50                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:04                                                 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:09                                                   ` [PATCH 1/7] block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:07                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-31  6:09                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 17:34                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 17:50                                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 17:55                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 18:27                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 18:54                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:16                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 19:24                                                               ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 20:09                                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-30 20:15                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 19:59                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 20:31                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 19:45                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-30 20:17                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 20:36                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  2:14                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31  2:47                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31  6:04                                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 11:15                                                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 14:55                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 15:22                                                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 15:41                                                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 16:15                                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 16:43                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 16:57                                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 17:19                                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-01  0:54                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 17:03                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-01  0:43                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 17:14                                                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 19:25                                                                             ` Mark Lord
2009-03-31 15:54                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-31 16:29                                                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-03-31  6:01                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 20:52                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 20:57                                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 13:16                                                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 13:23                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-31 13:28                                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-31 15:49                                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-03-31 16:37                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-30 12:11                                                   ` [PATCH 2/7] ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush() on fsync() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 14:04                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-30 14:15                                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-30 14:33                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31  1:26                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31  1:58                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-31  2:14                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-31 11:18                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 21:29                                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01  1:03                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-30 12:15                                                   ` [PATCH 3/7] ext4: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:18                                                   ` [PATCH 4/7] vfs: call blkdev_issue_flush() from generic file_fsync() helper Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:22                                                   ` [PATCH 5/7] vfs: Add wbcflush sysfs knob to disable storage device writeback cache flushes Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:36                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 14:18                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 14:35                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31  6:49                                                           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-31 10:38                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 11:56                                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:14                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30 17:51                                                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 17:55                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 17:59                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-30 19:09                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 20:56                                                               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30 22:01                                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-30 12:33                                                   ` [PATCH 6/7] xfs: propagate issue-flush error code Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:20                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-31 23:37                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-04-01  3:52                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 12:36                                                   ` [PATCH 7/7] reiserfs: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30 15:25                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-03-30  1:43                                           ` [PATCH 3/5] ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:53                                           ` [PATCH 4/5] vfs: call blkdev_issue_flush from generic file_fsync helper Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-30  1:59                                           ` [PATCH 5/5] vfs: Add wbcflush sysfs knob to disable storage device writeback cache flushes Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-03-25 21:33                                 ` Linux 2.6.29 Jeff Garzik
2009-03-27  7:57                                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-27 14:13                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-27 14:35                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27 15:03                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-27 20:38                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-28  0:14                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-29  8:25                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-03-27 19:14                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-03-27  7:46                               ` Jens Axboe
2009-03-31 20:49                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 22:02                               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-31 22:22                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-01 18:34                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-03-24 20:24               ` David Rees
2009-03-25  7:30                 ` David Rees
2009-03-24 23:03               ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-25  0:05                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-25 17:59                   ` David Rees
2009-03-25 18:40                   ` Stephen Clark
2009-03-26 23:53                     ` Mark Lord
2009-03-25  2:09                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-25  3:57                   ` Jesse Barnes
2009-03-27 11:27                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-03-24 12:27           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-02 14:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 13:02 ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 13:35   ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 14:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 14:33   ` Robert Schwebel
2009-03-24 14:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:09       ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 15:29         ` Sascha Hauer
2009-03-24 15:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:59             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-24 16:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 19:19                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 20:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 21:17                     ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", David Miller
2009-03-24 22:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  0:33                   ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  0:32                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  2:09                   ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", David Miller
2009-03-24 21:36         ` David Miller
2009-03-24 22:47           ` David Miller
2009-03-25  0:24             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  0:23           ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25  2:11             ` David Miller
2009-03-25  7:33               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  8:04                 ` David Miller
2009-03-25 12:08                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25 12:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 12:26                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-25 22:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 22:20                         ` Ken Witherow
2009-03-26  9:07                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  9:25                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 22:54                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  0:03                         ` David Miller
2009-03-26  0:10                         ` David Miller
2009-03-26  6:43                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:52                             ` David Miller
2009-03-26  7:59                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  2:41                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  3:20                           ` David Miller
2009-03-26  3:40                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-26  9:18                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:39                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-26  7:59                   ` David Miller
2009-03-25  9:34             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:22       ` Revert "gro: Fix legacy path napi_complete crash", (was: Re: Linux 2.6.29) Sascha Hauer
2009-03-27 13:35 ` Linux 2.6.29 Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-27 14:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-03-27 15:46     ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-27 16:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-28  7:50         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-30 22:00         ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-30 22:07           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-30 10:18             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-31 13:33             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-31 15:30             ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2009-03-31 19:37             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-03-31 19:47               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-04-02 19:01           ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-27 16:49   ` Frans Pop
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     [not found] ` <cj8ji-35a-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <cj8CC-3uO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <cjaXP-7vB-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <cjbhc-7VP-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]             ` <cjeS0-5nC-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-03-25 15:19               ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]     ` <cj9oW-4PO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <cjkaL-5xg-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <cjGbn-6Xx-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <cjGl4-7ak-61@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <cjJsv-3Uu-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <cjKHX-5MF-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <ck7XP-JA-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <ck8h7-18H-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <ck8AA-1y0-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2009-03-27 21:53                               ` Bodo Eggert
2009-03-28  6:51                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-03-28 12:12                                 ` Theodore Tso
     [not found]                               ` <ckdgW-uA-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                                 ` <ckdK0-1om-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2009-03-28 11:53                                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2009-03-29 14:45                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 15:47                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-29 19:15                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 14:22                                                           ` Morten P.D. Stevens
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2009-03-27 23:22                           ` Bodo Eggert

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