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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: christian pellegrin <chripell@fsfe.org>
Cc: feng.tang@intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, greg@kroah.com,
	david-b@pacbell.net, grant.likely@secretlab.ca,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] max3100: added raise_threaded_irq
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:06:05 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004162143300.3625@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w2gcabda6421004160918vc5dc5ee2y14a5814b4e8573b3@mail.gmail.com>

Christian,

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, christian pellegrin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> >> raise_threaded_irq schedules the execution of an interrupt thread
> >
> > I really have a hard time to understand _WHY_ we want to have that
> > function.
> >
> .....
> >
> > Can you please explain, what you are trying to achieve and why it
> > can't be done with the existing interfaces ?
> >
> 
> The idea was that by using this function we just need one kind of
> deferred work (interrupt threads) instead of two (for example
> interrupt threads and workqueues) in some situations. This is very
> handy with devices that do transmission and reception at the same
> time, for example many SPI devices. The user case is the max3100 UART
> on SPI driver. The same SPI instruction both receives and sends chars.
> So when we need to send a char we just start the interrupt thread
> instead of having another kind of deferred work doing the job. This
> greatly simplifies locking and avoids duplication of functionality
> (otherwise we must have an interrupt thread that does reception and a
> workqueue that does sending and receiving for example) because
> everything is done in just one point. The move from worqueues to
> interrupt threads was motivated by the much smaller latency under load
> of the latter because they are scheduled as RT processes. I hope this
> doesn't sound like a terrible abuse of threaded interrupts. Let me
> know before I try to fix other problems you mentioned.

Thanks for the explanation. Now, that makes a lot of sense and I can
see that it removes a lot of serialization issues and duplicated code
pathes.

So what you want is a mechanism to "inject" interrupts by
software. 

I wonder whether we should restrict this mechanism to threaded
handlers or just implement it in the following way:

int irq_inject(unsigned int irq)
{
        struct irq_desc *desc = irq_to_desc(irq);

	if (!desc)
		return -EINVAL;
	
	local_irq_disable();
        desc->handle_irq(irq, desc);
        local_irq_enable();
	return 0;
}

That would call the real interupt code path as it is called from the
arch/*/kernel/irq.c:entry code and take care of all serialization
issues.

The drawback is that it will increase the irq statistics, but I think
that's really a pure cosmetic problem.

That requires that the primary interrupt handler code knows about the
software "interrupt" event, but that's easy to solve. So the primary
handler would just return IRQ_WAKE_THREAD as it would do for a real
hardware triggered interrupt. But as a goodie that would work for non
threaded interrupts as well.

There is another thing which needs some care: 

This will not work out of the box when the irq is nested into some
demultiplexing thread handler (IRQF_NESTED_THREAD).

I'm too tried to look at this now, but I don't see a real showstopper
there.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-16 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23 10:29 [PATCH v1 0/3] max3100: improvements christian pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:28 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] max3100: added raise_threaded_irq Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:28   ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:28   ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29   ` [PATCH v1 2/4] max3100: moved to threaded interrupt Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29   ` [PATCH v1 3/4] max3100: adds console support for MAX3100 Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-29  2:48     ` Feng Tang
2010-03-29  2:48       ` Feng Tang
2010-03-29  2:48       ` Feng Tang
2010-03-29  6:11       ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-29  6:11         ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-29  7:06         ` Feng Tang
2010-03-29  7:06           ` Feng Tang
2010-03-29 12:55           ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-29 12:55             ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-30  2:14             ` Feng Tang
2010-03-30  6:49               ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-30  7:19                 ` Feng Tang
2010-03-30  8:00                   ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-30  8:46                 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-30 12:03                   ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-31  6:04                     ` Grant Likely
2010-04-05 18:19                       ` christian pellegrin
2010-04-05 19:00                         ` Grant Likely
2010-04-08  9:31       ` christian pellegrin
2010-04-08  9:31         ` christian pellegrin
2010-04-08  9:43         ` christian pellegrin
2010-04-08  9:43           ` christian pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29   ` [PATCH v1 4/4] max3100: introduced to_max3100_port, small style fixes Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-03-23 10:29     ` Christian Pellegrin
2010-04-15 23:22   ` [PATCH v1 1/4] max3100: added raise_threaded_irq Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-16 16:18     ` christian pellegrin
2010-04-16 22:06       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-04-17 16:25         ` christian pellegrin

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