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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ARM defconfig files
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1006050734370.8175@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilSBWeYTV6YlLK4XdoBsSFSVvtJIRmJxAdNu92U@mail.gmail.com>



On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> 
> How about instead of using full defconfigs, we use minimal ones and
> let the rest be determined with defaults.

I wouldn't mind that either, but there needs to be some way to check that 
they _are_ minimal. Which is more complicated than even SAT, afaik. 

So the reason I don't like the "minimal defconfig" notion is that a 
"regular defconfig" will work equally well, and lazy people will thus not 
bother to make it minimal (because it's work) and instead just pick the 
full config output.

And we're all lazy. So gearing the process towards something that makes it 
easy for lazy cases to do the wrong thing is a bad thing.

We also don't have any way to "source" these config files from each other, 
so there's no way from within such a config file to say "use the basic 
omap3 defaults an then just add this on top". You can do it by 
concatenating several such files manually from the Makefile or whatever 
script, of course, but then you end up with the files themselves not 
actually describing what they do.

That's why I suggested the Kconfig format instead. It's the exact same 
idea, but it's a "before pre-processing" format that already supports 
including other files.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-05 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100603074548.GA12104@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2010-06-03 14:48 ` ARM defconfig files Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 16:46   ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 18:13     ` Russell King
2010-06-03 21:33       ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 22:45         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04  4:59           ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  0:23       ` Kevin Hilman
2010-06-04  4:53         ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  1:02       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-04  5:29         ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-04  6:30         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-04  6:53           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-06-04  8:52           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-03 16:53   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-08 15:30     ` Catalin Marinas
2010-06-08 16:37       ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 18:10   ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 18:53       ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 19:20           ` Russell King
2010-06-03 19:35           ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 19:45             ` Russell King
2010-06-03 19:49               ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 19:57                 ` Russell King
2010-06-03 20:06                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 20:18                     ` Russell King
2010-06-03 20:20                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-04  1:06                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-03 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 20:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 21:17                   ` Tony Lindgren
2010-06-03 22:15                     ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04  5:18                       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-06-04 11:31                       ` Catalin Marinas
2010-06-03 22:24                     ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-05 14:12                     ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-05 14:39                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-06-05 16:39                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 21:48                   ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-04  0:36                   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-06-04 12:39                     ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05 13:47                   ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 20:34                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-03 20:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-06  3:28         ` david
2010-06-03 18:20     ` Daniel Walker
2010-06-03 18:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 18:30         ` Al Viro
2010-06-03 19:26         ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-14  8:32         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-14  8:32           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-30 10:40           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-30 10:40             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 15:55             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 15:55               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 16:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 16:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 16:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 17:32                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 17:32                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 17:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 17:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 17:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 18:50                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 18:50                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 18:50                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 19:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:17                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:17                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 19:50                             ` Grant Likely
2010-07-12 19:50                               ` Grant Likely
2010-07-13  7:07                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13  7:07                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13  8:07                                 ` optimized script [Was: ARM defconfig files] Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13  8:07                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13  8:07                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-13 18:04                                   ` Olof Johansson
2010-07-13 18:04                                     ` Olof Johansson
2010-07-13 18:04                                     ` Olof Johansson
2010-07-13 18:04                                     ` Olof Johansson
2010-07-13 23:39                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-13 23:39                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-13 23:39                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-13 18:32                                 ` ARM defconfig files Grant Likely
2010-07-13 18:32                                   ` Grant Likely
2010-07-13 18:32                                   ` Grant Likely
2010-07-12 19:59                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 19:59                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-12 20:14                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:14                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:09                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 19:09                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:31                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-12 20:31                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-12 20:50                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:50                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:50                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 23:05                       ` David Brown
2010-07-12 23:05                         ` David Brown
2010-07-12 23:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 23:18                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 23:18                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 23:34                           ` David Brown
2010-07-12 23:34                             ` David Brown
2010-07-13  0:55                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-13  0:55                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-14  9:13                             ` Felipe Contreras
2010-07-14  9:13                               ` Felipe Contreras
2010-07-14 13:20                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-14 13:20                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-14 13:20                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-07-14 17:37                               ` Tony Luck
2010-07-14 17:37                                 ` Tony Luck
2010-07-14 17:37                                 ` Tony Luck
2010-07-13 18:32                           ` Rob Landley
2010-07-13 18:32                             ` Rob Landley
2010-07-12 20:06                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 20:06                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-12 20:29                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 20:29                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-12 21:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-12 21:54                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-14  9:21                       ` Felipe Contreras
2010-07-14  9:21                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-07-14  9:21                         ` Felipe Contreras
2010-06-03 18:41       ` Russell King
2010-06-03 18:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-06  3:53         ` david

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