From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753518Ab0FGVJW (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:09:22 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:54046 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752871Ab0FGVJV (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:09:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:03:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Dave Airlie cc: Dave Airlie , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [git pull] drm fixes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Dave Airlie wrote: > > Oh the one where I said to the reporter, I've reproduced this, and > will fix it tomorrow when I have proper time and access to my test > machine? > > I didn't think writing a fix in the 5 mins before I left the test > machine and sending it you was acceptable, again can you maintain some > semblance of consistency across maintainers/releases? No, no. I really didn't imply that you should hurry and not be careful. I was just unhappy about the mixing of non-regression fixes with the regression fixes. > Like I'm happy if you really enforce this no features idea, I'd be > really happy if you did it every release since it makes it a lot > easier to push back to submaintainers if you can point at Linus not > pulling features from people. I already had another person state their happiness with me pushing back, and while I had my reasons for doing it this particular release, I do know that I've been letting things slide wrt the merge window a bit too much. So let's see how the 2.6.35 release cycle ends up looking when all is said and done. If pushing back harder ends up actually making things easier and the release cycle ends up working better as a result, I'm certainly very open to just being hardnosed in general. I suspect it won't even be very painful if people just get used to it. And if it ends up really helping sub-maintainers ("I can't do that, because Linus wouldn't pull the result anyway"), then that would be a really good reason for me to be rather stricter about the rules. Linus