From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:10162 "EHLO relais.videotron.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752554Ab0GLU3l (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:29:41 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre Subject: Re: ARM defconfig files In-reply-to: <20100712200604.GD9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Message-id: References: <20100603181010.GA25779@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1275589230.23384.19.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <20100614083214.GA2104@pengutronix.de> <20100630104043.GG11746@pengutronix.de> <20100712155518.GA24144@pengutronix.de> <20100712173228.GC9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20100712200604.GD9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-arm-msm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Linus Torvalds , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Uwe_Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Daniel Walker , Kevin Hilman , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Grant Likely , Eric Miao , linux-omap@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40:36AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux > > wrote: > > > > > > When you brought up the problem you seemed absolutely convinced > > > that nothing except your solution was going to be acceptable. > > > > That's not true. What's true is that you didn't seem to _understand_ > > my solution, so I tried to push the understanding of it. > > That's your point of view. > > My viewpoint was that I had read your email, thought of some alternative > solution, proposed it and the result was shot down without any apparant > thought about it. That gave the impression that you _only_ wanted to > see your own solution. OK, please let's put this appearance of misunderstanding behind. The rehashing of it from either parties doesn't produce any good. > The result of that has been very little in the way of progress towards > either your, or my alternative solutions - and apart from a few Kconfig > corner quirk patches, the only major work that's happened has been from > Uwe. For the record, I do support Uwe's work too. I do wish it could go in now so that from that point going forward we could only focus on improving the thing instead of having to care about implications during the merge window. But I do prefer RMK's proposal in the long run. Not only is it more expressive and clear, but it is easier to maintain going forward too. But that transition cannot be automated and I doubt the majority of targets will be converted anytime soon if at all. So at least Uwe's reduction is quite a good compromise for those. Nicolas From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: nico@fluxnic.net (Nicolas Pitre) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ARM defconfig files In-Reply-To: <20100712200604.GD9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20100603181010.GA25779@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <1275589230.23384.19.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <20100614083214.GA2104@pengutronix.de> <20100630104043.GG11746@pengutronix.de> <20100712155518.GA24144@pengutronix.de> <20100712173228.GC9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> <20100712200604.GD9897@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40:36AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux > > wrote: > > > > > > When you brought up the problem you seemed absolutely convinced > > > that nothing except your solution was going to be acceptable. > > > > That's not true. What's true is that you didn't seem to _understand_ > > my solution, so I tried to push the understanding of it. > > That's your point of view. > > My viewpoint was that I had read your email, thought of some alternative > solution, proposed it and the result was shot down without any apparant > thought about it. That gave the impression that you _only_ wanted to > see your own solution. OK, please let's put this appearance of misunderstanding behind. The rehashing of it from either parties doesn't produce any good. > The result of that has been very little in the way of progress towards > either your, or my alternative solutions - and apart from a few Kconfig > corner quirk patches, the only major work that's happened has been from > Uwe. For the record, I do support Uwe's work too. I do wish it could go in now so that from that point going forward we could only focus on improving the thing instead of having to care about implications during the merge window. But I do prefer RMK's proposal in the long run. Not only is it more expressive and clear, but it is easier to maintain going forward too. But that transition cannot be automated and I doubt the majority of targets will be converted anytime soon if at all. So at least Uwe's reduction is quite a good compromise for those. Nicolas