From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: rpjday@crashcourse.ca (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers In-Reply-To: <11442.1407344320@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <12636.1407268471@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <11442.1407344320@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org List-Id: kernelnewbies.lists.kernelnewbies.org On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said: > > > oh man you have gained prominence in vger? > > They have banned you from vger. > > Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember > *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and > could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach that? *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off and wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly* turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help playground means that he needs to be shown the door. i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if this is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos. people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who would desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start submitting patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen and follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become useful contributors. nick is not. it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, "ok, but what should i be doing?" if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline. nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================