From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:40:32 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1510302036140.17538@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151030174417.GA16781@amd>
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > I would say instead "no I/O is allowed from now on". Maybe that's an
> > overstatement, but I think it comes closer to the truth.
But that's what PM callbacks are for.
> Exactly. And I'm pretty sure hardware drivers do use kernel threads,
> and do I/O from them.
>
> LEDs are just one example
And why is that relevant? First, I don't see any freezable kthread in leds
class implementation whatsoever. Second, I am pretty sure that it's quite
unlikely to participate in filesystem I/O.
Sure, you need to suspend and resume the devices when going through
suspend. That's why led_suspend() exists. How would try_to_freeze() help
at all? That's basically just a fancy schedule() called at certain points.
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-30 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-30 13:47 [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer Jiri Kosina
2015-10-30 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/3] power, vfs: move away from PF_KTHREAD freezing in favor of fs freezing Jiri Kosina
2015-10-30 14:04 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-31 8:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2015-11-02 3:01 ` Neil Brown
2015-11-02 7:54 ` yalin wang
2015-11-02 11:05 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-10-30 13:47 ` [PATCH 2/3] freezer: get rid of the kthread freezer Jiri Kosina
2015-10-30 14:08 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-30 14:12 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-30 13:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] freezer: warn if anyone is trying to use freezer on kthreads Jiri Kosina
2015-10-30 15:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] PM, vfs: use filesystem freezing instead of kthread freezer Alan Stern
2015-10-30 15:29 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-30 17:44 ` Pavel Machek
2015-10-30 19:40 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2015-10-30 20:41 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-30 20:41 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-30 21:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-10-31 3:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-31 8:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-02 2:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-11-02 10:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-02 11:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2015-11-02 15:18 ` Alan Stern
2015-11-02 15:18 ` Alan Stern
2015-11-03 0:10 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-03 4:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-11-03 9:31 ` Jan Kara
2015-11-03 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-31 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-31 16:01 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-31 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-31 15:56 ` Alan Stern
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