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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	alpha <linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v3] alpha: add a delay to inb_p, inb_w and inb_l
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 09:26:45 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.2005220920020.20970@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200513144128.GA16995@mail.rc.ru>



On Wed, 13 May 2020, Ivan Kokshaysky wrote:

> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 03:58:24PM +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> >  Individual PCI port locations correspond to different MMIO locations, so 
> > yes, accesses to these can be reordered (merging won't happen due to the 
> > use of the sparse address space).
> 
> Correct, it's how Alpha write buffers work. According to 21064 hardware
> reference manual, these buffers are flushed when one of the following
> conditions is met:
> 
> 1) The write buffer contains at least two valid entries.
> 2) The write buffer contains one valid entry and at least 256 CPU cycles
>    have elapsed since the execution of the last write buffer-directed
>    instruction.
> 3) The write buffer contains an MB, STQ_C or STL_C instruction.
> 4) A load miss is pending to an address currently valid in the write
>    buffer that requires the write buffer to be flushed.
> 
> I'm certain that in these rtc/serial cases we've got readX arriving
> to device *before* preceeding writeX because of 2). That's why small
> delay (300-1400 ns, apparently depends on CPU frequency) seemingly
> "fixes" the problem. The 4) is not met because loads and stores are
> to different ports, and 3) has been broken by commit 92d7223a74.
> 
> So I believe that correct fix would be to revert 92d7223a74 and
> add wmb() before [io]writeX macros to meet memory-barriers.txt
> requirement. The "wmb" instruction is cheap enough and won't hurt
> IO performance too much.
> 
> Ivan.

I agree ... and what about readX_relaxed and writeX_relaxed? According to 
the memory-barriers specification, the _relaxed functions must be ordered 
w.r.t. each other. If Alpha can't keep them ordered, they should have 
barriers between them too.

Mikulas


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-22 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-06 11:21 [PATCH 1/2] alpha: add a delay between RTC port write and read Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-06 14:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-06 17:12   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] alpha: add a delay to inb_p, inb_w and inb_l Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07  8:06     ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] " Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07  8:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-07 10:53         ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07 13:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-07 14:09         ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07 15:08           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-07 15:45             ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07 15:46             ` [PATCH v4] alpha: add a barrier after outb, outw and outl Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-07 19:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-10  1:27                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-10  1:25             ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] alpha: add a delay to inb_p, inb_w and inb_l Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-10 18:50               ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-11 14:58                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-12 19:35                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-13 14:41                   ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2020-05-13 16:13                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-13 17:17                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-22 13:03                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-22 13:37                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-22 13:26                     ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2020-05-22 20:00                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-23 10:26                         ` [PATCH v4] alpha: fix memory barriers so that they conform to the specification Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-23 15:10                           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2020-05-23 15:34                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-23 15:37                               ` [PATCH v5] " Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-24 14:54                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-25 13:56                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-25 14:07                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-25 14:45                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-25 15:53                                       ` [PATCH v6] " Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-26 14:47                                         ` [PATCH v7] " Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-27  0:18                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-06-08  6:58                                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-06-08 23:49                                               ` Matt Turner
2020-05-25 15:54                                       ` [PATCH v5] " Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-25 16:39                                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-26 14:48                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-27  0:23                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-23 16:44                               ` [PATCH v4] " Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-23 17:09                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2020-05-23 19:27                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-05-23 20:11                                     ` Mikulas Patocka

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