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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, pifang@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	aarcange@redhat.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Memory hotplug softlock issue
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:08:39 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1811201630360.2061@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f1a82a8-f2aa-ac5e-e6a8-057256162321@suse.cz>

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 11/20/18 6:44 AM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > [PATCH] mm: put_and_wait_on_page_locked() while page is migrated
> > 
> > We have all assumed that it is essential to hold a page reference while
> > waiting on a page lock: partly to guarantee that there is still a struct
> > page when MEMORY_HOTREMOVE is configured, but also to protect against
> > reuse of the struct page going to someone who then holds the page locked
> > indefinitely, when the waiter can reasonably expect timely unlocking.
> > 
> > But in fact, so long as wait_on_page_bit_common() does the put_page(),
> > and is careful not to rely on struct page contents thereafter, there is
> > no need to hold a reference to the page while waiting on it.  That does
> 
> So there's still a moment where refcount is elevated, but hopefully
> short enough, right?

Correct: and given page migration's 10 passes, it would have to be very
unlucky to hit one of those transiently elevated refcounts every time:
so I don't think it's a grave drawback at all - certainly much less
grave than how it's done at present.

I admit that doing a get_page_unless_zero() immediately before the
put_and_wait_on_page_locked() looks rather silly, but I think we do
have to hold a reference in order to set PG_waiters. Then for other
future uses (e.g. in find_get_entry() or lock_page_or_retry()),
the reference to be dropped has been taken earlier anyway.

> Let's see if it survives Baoquan's stress testing.
> 
> > mean that this case cannot go back through the loop: but that's fine for
> > the page migration case, and even if used more widely, is limited by the
> > "Stop walking if it's locked" optimization in wake_page_function().
> > 
> > Add interface put_and_wait_on_page_locked() to do this, using negative
> > value of the lock arg to wait_on_page_bit_common() to implement it.
> > No interruptible or killable variant needed yet, but they might follow:
> > I have a vague notion that reporting -EINTR should take precedence over
> > return from wait_on_page_bit_common() without knowing the page state,
> > so arrange it accordingly - but that may be nothing but pedantic.
> > 
> > shrink_page_list()'s __ClearPageLocked(): that was a surprise! this
> > survived a lot of testing before that showed up.  It does raise the
> > question: should is_page_cache_freeable() and __remove_mapping() now
> > treat a PG_waiters page as if an extra reference were held?  Perhaps,
> > but I don't think it matters much, since shrink_page_list() already
> > had to win its trylock_page(), so waiters are not very common there: I
> > noticed no difference when trying the bigger change, and it's surely not
> > needed while put_and_wait_on_page_locked() is only for page migration.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> > ---
> 
> ...
> 
> > @@ -1100,6 +1111,17 @@ static inline int wait_on_page_bit_common(wait_queue_head_t *q,
> >  			ret = -EINTR;
> >  			break;
> >  		}
> > +
> > +		if (lock < 0) {
> > +			/*
> > +			 * We can no longer safely access page->flags:
> 
> Hmm...
> 
> > +			 * even if CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTREMOVE is not enabled,
> > +			 * there is a risk of waiting forever on a page reused
> > +			 * for something that keeps it locked indefinitely.
> > +			 * But best check for -EINTR above before breaking.
> > +			 */
> > +			break;
> > +		}
> >  	}
> >  
> >  	finish_wait(q, wait);
> 
> ... the code continues by:
> 
>         if (thrashing) {
>                 if (!PageSwapBacked(page))
> 
> So maybe we should not set 'thrashing' true when lock < 0?

Very good catch, thank you Vlastimil: as you might have guessed, the
patch from a pre-PSI kernel applied cleanly, and I just hadn't reviewed
the surrounding context properly before sending out.

I cannot say immediately what the right answer is, I'll have to do some
research first: maybe not enter the block that sets thrashing true when
lock < 0, as you suggest, or maybe force lock < 0 to 0 and put_page()
afterwards, or... 

Hugh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-21  1:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14  7:09 Memory hotplug softlock issue Baoquan He
2018-11-14  7:16 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14  7:16   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14  8:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:00   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14  9:25     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:41       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:48         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14 10:04           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:01   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14  9:37       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-14  9:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-14 14:52     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-14 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  5:10         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  7:30           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  7:53             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  8:30               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15  9:42                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-15  9:52                   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15  9:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-15 13:12                 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 13:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 13:23                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 14:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 13:38                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-15 14:32                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-15 14:34                         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-16  1:24                         ` Baoquan He
2018-11-16  9:14                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-17  4:22                             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-19 10:52                             ` Baoquan He
2018-11-19 12:40                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 12:51                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 14:10                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 16:36                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 16:46                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 16:46                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 16:48                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-19 17:01                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 17:33                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-19 20:34                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-19 20:59                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-20  1:56                                           ` Baoquan He
2018-11-20  5:44                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-20 13:38                                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-20 13:58                                                 ` Baoquan He
2018-11-20 13:58                                                   ` Baoquan He
2018-11-20 14:05                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-20 14:12                                                     ` Baoquan He
2018-11-21  1:21                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-21  1:08                                                 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2018-11-21  3:20                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-21 17:31                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22  1:53                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2018-11-14 10:00 ` Michal Hocko

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