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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Alex Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin Uecker <uecker@tugraz.at>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>,
	JeanHeyd Meneide <wg14@soasis.org>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Various pages: SYNOPSIS: Use VLA syntax in function parameters
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:58:11 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.2211291450280.24878@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494309ce-c8ec-5219-f83e-b8dda5b9bcd1@gmail.com>

Hey,

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Alex Colomar via Gcc wrote:

> How about the compiler parsing the parameter list twice?

This _is_ unbounded look-ahead.  You could avoid this by using "." for 
your new syntax.  Use something unambiguous that can't be confused with 
other syntactic elements, e.g. with a different punctuator like '@' or the 
like.  But I'm generally doubtful of this whole feature within C itself.  
It serves a purpose in documentation, so in man-pages it seems fine enough 
(but then still could use a different puncuator to not be confusable with 
C syntax).

But within C it still can only serve a documentation purpose as no 
checking could be performed without also changes in how e.g. arrays are 
represented (they always would need to come with a size).  It seems 
doubtful to introduce completely new and ambiguous syntax with all the 
problems Joseph lists just in order to be able to write documentation when 
there's a perfectly fine method to do so: comments.


Ciao,
Michael.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-29 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 21:07 [PATCH] Various pages: SYNOPSIS: Use VLA syntax in function parameters Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-27 11:10 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-08-27 12:15   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-27 13:08     ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-08-27 18:38       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-08-28 11:24         ` Alejandro Colomar
     [not found]           ` <CACqA6+mfaj6Viw+LVOG=nE350gQhCwVKXRzycVru5Oi4EJzgTg@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-02 21:02             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-02 21:57               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 12:47                 ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 13:29                   ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-09-03 15:08                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 13:41                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 14:35                     ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 14:59                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-03 15:31                         ` Martin Uecker
2022-09-03 20:02                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-05 14:31                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10  0:06                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10  0:09                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10  1:33                             ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10  1:39                               ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10  6:21                                 ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-10 10:09                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 23:19                                   ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-10 23:28                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-11 19:52                                     ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-12  1:09                                       ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12  7:24                                         ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-12 12:34                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 12:46                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 13:03                                       ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 13:40                                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 13:58                                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 14:54                                           ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 15:35                                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 17:02                                               ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-12 17:08                                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-12 15:56                                             ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 13:19                                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 13:33                                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 14:02                                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 14:58                                                     ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 15:15                                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 15:32                                                         ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-13 16:25                                                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:28                                                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:31                                                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:34                                                             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 16:56                                                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-13 19:05                                                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-14 18:13                                                           ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-28 22:59                                                             ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-28 23:18                                                       ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29  0:05                                                         ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-29 14:58                                                         ` Michael Matz [this message]
2022-11-29 15:17                                                           ` Uecker, Martin
2022-11-29 15:44                                                             ` Michael Matz
2022-11-29 16:58                                                               ` Uecker, Martin
2022-11-29 17:28                                                                 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29 16:49                                                           ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-29 16:53                                                             ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-29 17:00                                                               ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-29 17:19                                                                 ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-29 17:29                                                                   ` Alex Colomar
2022-12-03 21:03                                                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-03 21:13                                                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2022-12-03 21:15                                                                       ` Martin Uecker
2022-12-03 21:18                                                                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-06  2:08                                                                       ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-14 17:52                                                 ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-14 17:57                                                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-14 18:26                                                     ` Joseph Myers
2022-11-28 23:02                                                       ` Alex Colomar
2022-11-10  9:40                             ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-11-10 10:59                               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 17:47                                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 18:04                                   ` MR macro 4th argument (was: [PATCH] Various pages: SYNOPSIS: Use VLA syntax in function parameters) Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 18:11                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 18:20                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 19:37                                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 20:41                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-10 22:55                                     ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-11-10 23:55                                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-11-11  4:44                                         ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-11-10 22:25                                 ` [PATCH] Various pages: SYNOPSIS: Use VLA syntax in function parameters G. Branden Robinson

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