From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E159C433DB for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468C864FD5 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234097AbhCJXwC (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:52:02 -0500 Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca ([64.59.134.12]:42710 "EHLO smtp-out-no.shaw.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234003AbhCJXvq (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:51:46 -0500 Received: from fanir.tuyoix.net ([68.150.218.192]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id K8bxlvLCE2SWTK8bylPynP; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:51:31 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=fdJod2cF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=60495b84 a=LfNn7serMq+1bQZBlMsSfQ==:117 a=LfNn7serMq+1bQZBlMsSfQ==:17 a=dESyimp9J3IA:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=nlC_4_pT8q9DhB4Ho9EA:9 a=VJWKXYJrk6ICo56YXkAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from CLUIJ (cluij.tuyoix.net [192.168.144.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by fanir.tuyoix.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 12ANpSKp006323 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:51:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:51:26 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Marc_Aur=C3=A8le_La_France?= To: Pablo Neira Ayuso cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH nf] netfilter REJECT: Fix destination MAC in RST packets In-Reply-To: <20210309102740.GA30899@salvia> Message-ID: References: <20210308102510.GA23497@salvia> <20210309013621.GA27206@salvia> <20210309102740.GA30899@salvia> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (WNT 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="685856-9267-1615420287=:3708" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfHdjbytFfH8jQHdBSKZq3vnSOl0B5xk8xmW3XhenFWAESoCHM+qaQtNDYcaTUhElPRogGmJAR0/b1+Lnu/wZSNqG0qgUqyewAkZVRi/kSlWdfeXLmLZ3 0fjWSLLPn16c93AmbJb25zjtxYRVNBBmzrHeZC1YgeV4N0e7diDS6ALmAgfoaI5kEJecuWZcBFcVtUDdZgutXyj30jjPUZ3sCPMX3pZDwqtuPrw/fG6nE/bp Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --685856-9267-1615420287=:3708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 09:25:28PM -0700, Marc Aurèle La France wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 09:21:20AM -0700, Marc Aurèle La France wrote: >>>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: >>>>> On Sun, Mar 07, 2021 at 06:16:34PM -0700, Marc Aurèle La France wrote: >>>>>> In the non-bridge case, the REJECT target code assumes the REJECTed >>>>>> packets were originally emitted by the local host, but that's not >>>>>> necessarily true when the local host is the default route of a subnet >>>>>> it is on, resulting in RST packets being sent out with an incorrect >>>>>> destination MAC. Address this by refactoring the handling of bridged >>>>>> packets which deals with a similar issue. Modulo patch fuzz, the >>>>>> following applies to v5 and later kernels. >>>>> The code this patch updates is related to BRIDGE_NETFILTER. Your patch >>>>> description refers to the non-bridge case. What are you trying to >>>>> achieve? >>>> Via DHCP, my subnet's default route is a Linux system so that it can monitor >>>> all outbound traffic. By doing so, for example, I have determined that my >>>> Android phone connects to Facebook despite the fact that I have no such app >>>> installed. I want to know, and control, what other behind-the-scenes >>>> (under-handed) traffic devices on my subnet generate. >>>>> dev_queue_xmit() path should not be exercised from the prerouting >>>>> chain, packets generated from the IP later must follow the >>>>> ip_local_out() path. >>>> Well, I can tell you dev_queue_xmit() does in fact work in prerouting >>>> chains, as it must for the bridging case. The only potential problem I've >>>> found so far is that the RST packet doesn't go through any netfilter hooks. >>> That's the issue, Netfilter rejects code from the IP layer, so the >>> packets follows the ip_local_out() path. >> ... which sets an incorrect destination MAC. Also, in this case, netfilter >> doesn't reject any such thing. It doesn't even "see" the RST packet >> dev_queue_xmit() sends out. That's OK as there is no further need to >> process such a packet. > dev_queue_xmit() skips the policy in the local out path for the > generated RST packet. If you want to plain reject using > dev_queue_xmit() then you have to use the ingress hook. >> At least, the device whose connection request is being denied >> doesn't hang anymore... > The neighbour cache selects the destination MAC from the destination > IP address of the RST packet. > Your patch also refers to non-bridge scenario (no br_netfilter in > place). > Could you describe what you're trying to achieve in plain layman terms? I will (re-)do no such thing because you are refusing to make sense. It's OK that the bridge code uses dev_queue_xmit() to send out an RST packet that has correct MACs, but that doesn't make another trip through netfilter. And yet you object to my leveraging of the very same behaviour to solve the exact same issue in a non-bridge scenario. Wow! What the hell is going on here?!?!? I'll tell you one thing that won't change, regardless of how many irrelevant complications you throw at it. To wit, by using existing code, the patch I submitted solves the issue I was seeing. Full stop. Marc. --685856-9267-1615420287=:3708--