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From: Brendan Trotter <btrotter@gmail.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: About firmware facilities
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:27:33 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1ebdcad0909141157p5d4fb743o14b807f56b35b3d8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090914153226.GA25403@thorin>

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote:
> Well, you have the freedom to disagree with anything we do and bring your
> customized GRUB to a different direction :-)
>
> Anyhow, my priority for GRUB is strong driver-based support.  We could recruit
> someone to develop the framework in next year's GSoC (unless somebody steps
> in, of course).

Why stop there?

If proprietory ethernet ROMs aren't good enough, then what about
proprietory SCSI ROMs, and proprietory firmware/BIOS?

Surely a boot manager wouldn't be a good manager if it didn't include
it's own replacements for all of these things; and perhaps it should
also include it's own replacement for proprietory OS's too...

Why are you worrying about such silly things when the multi-boot
specification (which actually is relevant) is still severely borked?

>  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
>  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
>  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."

Sigh. I think I understand now - lack of logical thinking leads to
lack of rational behavior.

"Our data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) other people
may access our data (potentially including allowing them to lease it
under terms and conditions that include DRM, if they agree to these
terms and conditions)"


Cheers,

Brendan



  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-14 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09 14:07 PXEgrub development on grub2 Lars Nooden
2009-09-09 14:11 ` Felix Zielcke
2009-09-09 14:13   ` Lars Nooden
2009-09-09 15:04   ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-09 19:40     ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-10 12:39       ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-10 13:01         ` Felix Zielcke
2009-09-10 21:17           ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-11 13:17             ` Robert Millan
2009-09-11 21:07               ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-12  0:05                 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-12  0:20                   ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-12 12:54                 ` About firmware facilities Robert Millan
2009-09-13 20:54                   ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-14 15:32                     ` Robert Millan
2009-09-14 18:57                       ` Brendan Trotter [this message]
2009-09-14 19:11                         ` Pavel Roskin
2009-09-14 20:12                           ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-14 20:47                             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-14 20:49                             ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-14 23:23                               ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-14 23:43                                 ` Colin Watson
2009-09-14 23:56                                   ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-15  0:28                                     ` Colin Watson
2009-09-15  1:06                                       ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-15  8:59                                 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-15 16:01                                   ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-19 14:06                                     ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-20  9:04                                       ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-20 10:38                                         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-19 21:07                           ` Robert Millan
2009-09-10 18:59     ` PXEgrub development on grub2 Robert Millan
2009-09-17 22:39       ` Joey Korkames
2009-09-18  6:19         ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko

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