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From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Simon Horman <simon.horman@netronome.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 2/3] net sched actions: dump more than TCA_ACT_MAX_PRIO actions per batch
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:07:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b32fb2fb-ffb1-aee8-5f1d-1f1e3c82b347@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170426135627.GI1867@nanopsycho.orion>

On 17-04-26 09:56 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:14:38PM CEST, jhs@mojatatu.com wrote:
>> On 17-04-26 08:08 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:

[..]

>> Jiri, what are you arguing about if you have done the math? ;->
>
> I can do 3*2*64. What I cannot do is to figure out the real performance
> impact.
>

Jiri, I do a lot of very large data dumping and setting towards the
kernel. You know that. It is why I even have these patches to begin
with.

The math should be convincing enough.
48B per rule extra for just MPLS in a filter rule. I havent started
testing the overhead of flower but i do plan to use it - with about a
million rules for offloading. I will give you the numbers then.

I think we are at a stalemate.
You are not going to convince me to use an attribute with a
u8 for a bit flag when I can fit 32 of them in one attribute (with
the same cost). And I am not able to convince you that you are
wrong to put beauty first.

>> Again: You are looking at this from a manageability point of view which
>> is useful but not the only input into a design. If i can squeeze more
>> data without killing usability - I am all for it. It just doesnt
>> compute that it is ok to use a flag per attribute because it looks
>> beautiful.
>
> Hmm. Now that I'm thinking about it, why don't we have NLA_FLAGS with
> couple of helpers around it? It will be obvious what the attr is, all
> kernel code would use the same helpers. Would be nice.
>

I think to have flags at that level is useful but it
is a different hierarchy level. I am not sure the
"actions dump large messages" is a fit for that level.

cheers,
jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-26 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25 11:54 [PATCH net-next v8 0/3] net sched actions: improve dump performance Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-25 11:54 ` [PATCH net-next v8 1/3] net sched actions: Use proper root attribute table for actions Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-25 18:42   ` Simon Horman
2017-04-25 11:54 ` [PATCH net-next v8 2/3] net sched actions: dump more than TCA_ACT_MAX_PRIO actions per batch Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-25 12:13   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-25 13:01     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-25 16:04       ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-25 20:29         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26  6:19           ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-26 11:07             ` Simon Horman
2017-04-26 13:00               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26 11:48             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26 12:08               ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-26 13:14                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26 13:56                   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-26 20:07                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2017-04-27  6:30                       ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-28  1:22                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-28  7:02                           ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-28 12:30                             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-28 13:21                               ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-28 13:42                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-28 14:02                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-30 10:34                                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26 11:02         ` Simon Horman
2017-04-26 12:46           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-26 13:05             ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-26 14:46               ` David Miller
2017-04-26 14:58                 ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-28 12:21                 ` Simon Horman
2017-04-28 12:55                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-04-28 13:21                     ` Jiri Pirko
2017-04-25 11:54 ` [PATCH net-next v8 3/3] net sched actions: add time filter for action dumping Jamal Hadi Salim

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