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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, sdf@google.com, jacob.e.keller@intel.com,
	vadfed@fb.com, jiri@resnulli.us, dsahern@kernel.org,
	stephen@networkplumber.org, fw@strlen.de,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/4] ynl: add intro docs for the concept
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 09:07:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5f64bfb0bcb70b0ac89143b8aabb3e383e362c3.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220815173254.1809b44a@kernel.org>

On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 17:32 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 22:09:29 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2022-08-10 at 19:23 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > 
> > > +Note that attribute spaces do not themselves nest, nested attributes refer to their internal
> > > +space via a ``nested-attributes`` property, so the YAML spec does not resemble the format
> > > +of the netlink messages directly.  
> > 
> > I find this a bit ... confusing.
> > 
> > I think reading the other patch I know what you mean, but if I think of
> > this I think more of the policy declarations than the message itself,
> > and there we do refer to another policy?
> > 
> > Maybe reword a bit and say
> > 
> >    Note that attribute spaces do not themselves nest, nested attributes
> >    refer to their internal space via a ``nested-attributes`` property
> >    (the name of another or the same attribute space).
> > 
> > or something?
> 
> I think I put the cart before the horse in this looong sentence. How
> about:
> 
>   Note that the YAML spec is "flattened" and is not meant to visually
>   resemble the format of the netlink messages (unlike certain ad-hoc documentation
>   formats seen in kernel comments). In the YAML spec subordinate attribute sets
>   are not defined inline as a nest, but defined in a separate attribute set
>   referred to with a ``nested-attributes`` property of the container.
> 
Yeah, that makes sense.

Like I said, I was already thinking of the policy structures (and the
policy advertisement to userspace) which is exactly the same way, so I
didn't see this as much different - but of course it _is_ different from
the message itself.

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-16  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-11  2:23 [RFC net-next 0/4] ynl: YAML netlink protocol descriptions Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 1/4] ynl: add intro docs for the concept Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 20:17   ` Edward Cree
2022-08-12 22:23     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:09   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16  0:32     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16  7:07       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 2/4] ynl: add the schema for the schemas Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:03   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-15 20:09   ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16  0:47     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16  7:21       ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-16 15:53         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-16 19:30           ` Johannes Berg
2022-09-26 16:10   ` Rob Herring
2022-09-27 21:56     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-28 12:32       ` Rob Herring
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 3/4] ynl: add a sample python library Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11  5:48   ` Benjamin Poirier
2022-08-11 15:50     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 20:09   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-12 22:53     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-15 20:00       ` Johannes Berg
2022-08-12  1:04   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-12 15:42     ` Edward Cree
2022-08-12 23:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-18 21:26         ` Keller, Jacob E
2022-08-11  2:23 ` [RFC net-next 4/4] ynl: add a sample user for ethtool Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 16:18   ` sdf
2022-08-11 19:35     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 22:55       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-08-11 23:31         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-12 16:26           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-08-12 22:48             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-14 12:27   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-11  4:15 ` [RFC net-next 0/4] ynl: YAML netlink protocol descriptions Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-11  4:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 15:01     ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-11 15:34       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 16:28         ` sdf
2022-08-11 19:42           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-12 17:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-08-12 22:26   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-19 19:56 ` Jakub Kicinski

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