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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	gaku.inami.xh@renesas.com,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 12/12] sched/core: Disable SD_PREFER_SIBLING on asymmetric cpu capacity domains
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 11:53:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7c78d65-ab85-36ce-6da6-d10e5113c4a3@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtA3_yBf-NjPJcZUw=ijhq-HBa0A9U=Djcc_K1XQz45EPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 06/08/18 11:20, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> Hi Valentin,
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 at 14:33, Valentin Schneider
> <valentin.schneider@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 31/07/18 13:17, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> This can easily happen with SD_PREFER_SIBLING enabled too so I wouldn't
>>>> say that this patch breaks anything that isn't broken already. In fact
>>>> we this happening with and without this patch applied.
>>>
>>> At least for the use case  above, this doesn't happen when
>>> SD_PREFER_SIBLING is set
>>>
>>
>> On my HiKey960 I can see coscheduling on a big CPU while a LITTLE is free
>> with **and** without SD_PREFER_SIBLING. Having it set only means that in
>> some cases the imbalance will be re-classified as group_overloaded instead
>> of group_misfit_task, so we'll skip the misfit logic when we shouldn't (this
>> happens on Juno for instance).
> 
> Can you give more details about your test case ?
> 

I've been running the same test case as presented in the cover letter on
my HiKey960 but with sched_switch tracing and with no tasksets. I've just
re-run the testcase with tasksets and I get similar results (i.e. a big
with coscheduling while a LITTLE is free) with or without the flag.

>>
>> It does nothing for the "1 task per CPU" problem that Morten described above.
>> When you have this little amount of tasks, load isn't very relevant, but it
>> skews the load-balancer into thinking the LITTLE CPUs are more busy than
>> the bigs even though there's an idle one in the lot.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Morten

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-06 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-04 10:17 [PATCHv4 00/12] sched/fair: Migrate 'misfit' tasks on asymmetric capacity systems Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 01/12] sched: Add static_key for asymmetric cpu capacity optimizations Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-31 10:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-02 15:15     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:13   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/topology: Add static_key for asymmetric CPU " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 02/12] sched/fair: Add group_misfit_task load-balance type Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:13   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Add 'group_misfit_task' " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 03/12] sched: Add sched_group per-cpu max capacity Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:14   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Add sched_group per-CPU " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 04/12] sched/fair: Consider misfit tasks when load-balancing Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:14   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 05/12] sched/fair: Kick nohz balance if rq->misfit_task_load Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:15   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Valentin Schneider
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 06/12] sched/fair: Change prefer_sibling type to bool Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:15   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Change 'prefer_sibling' " tip-bot for Valentin Schneider
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 07/12] sched: Change root_domain->overload type to int Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:16   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: " tip-bot for Valentin Schneider
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 08/12] sched: Wrap rq->rd->overload accesses with READ/WRITE_ONCE Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:17   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Wrap rq->rd->overload accesses with READ/WRITE_ONCE() tip-bot for Valentin Schneider
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 09/12] sched/fair: Set rq->rd->overload when misfit Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:17   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Valentin Schneider
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 10/12] sched/fair: Don't move tasks to lower capacity cpus unless necessary Morten Rasmussen
2018-09-10 10:18   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Don't move tasks to lower capacity CPUs " tip-bot for Chris Redpath
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 11/12] sched/core: Disable SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY for root_domains without asymmetry Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-05 13:31   ` Quentin Perret
2018-07-05 14:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-05 15:03       ` Quentin Perret
2018-07-20 13:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-04 10:17 ` [PATCHv4 12/12] sched/core: Disable SD_PREFER_SIBLING on asymmetric cpu capacity domains Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-06 10:18   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-07-06 14:31     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-31 12:17       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-07-31 12:33         ` Valentin Schneider
2018-08-06 10:20           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-08-06 10:53             ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2018-08-10  9:30               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-09-10 10:18   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/core: Disable SD_PREFER_SIBLING on asymmetric CPU " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-06 10:18 ` [PATCHv4 00/12] sched/fair: Migrate 'misfit' tasks on asymmetric capacity systems Vincent Guittot
2018-07-09 15:08   ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-07-26 17:14     ` Valentin Schneider
2018-07-30 14:30       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-07-31 12:13         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-07-31 12:14           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-07-31 12:11     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-07-31 12:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-31 12:10   ` Valentin Schneider
2018-07-31 12:50     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-08-17  1:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-20  2:50 ` Gaku Inami

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