Re: Git install crashed nearly whole System

[Christian Strasser <christian@avr-fun.de>]

Hello Brian,

First, I want to thank you for your detailed information. 

I'm a little confused. Is the instruction on "
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Getting-Started-Installing-Git" not the
official one? As you can see there, the first part is how to install
git with your package manager (git-all).

I have to admit that I'm new to the Linux world, and that I still have
to learn a lot about it. 

After the disaster I reinstalled all lost packages (also GNOME)
according to the information in my apt history. Everything seems to
work fine now.

Should I remove everything form "git-all" and reinstall everything
according to your advise? It seems no git daemon is working right now
(systemctl | grep git).

Best regards form Germany,
Christian



On Sun, 2021-03-14 at 20:20 +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On 2021-03-14 at 18:23:40, Christian Strasser wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I installed Git yesterday on my system. For that I used “sudo apt-
> > get
> > install git-all”.  During the installation a lot of very important
> > packages got removed! It was horrible, and I couldn’t use my gnome
> > desktop environment at all! A lot off dependencies got lost!
> > Fortunately, I could save my system through read out the
> > information
> > about removed packages from the apt history.
> > 
> > Today I totally removed git and tried to install everything again
> > with
> > the same instruction. The same misbehavior did happen!
> 
> This is best reported to Debian because it's a packaging problem, but
> I'll tell you what's happening.
> 
> By default, Debian installs recommends.  When you specified git-all,
> you
> also asked to install git-daemon-run or git-daemon-sysvinit, and the
> former is the preferred option.  So that causes systemd to be
> uninstalled and sysvinit to replace it instead, and because GNOME on
> Debian is configured to require systemd and not to work with
> sysvinit,
> GNOME gets removed.
> 
> There are a couple problems here.
> 
> First, you don't want to install git-all as a package because it has
> this behavior, and git-all should not be configured such that
> installing
> it causes your init system to be changed.  That is a serious
> packaging
> problem.
> 
> Second, GNOME should gracefully work with whatever init system is on
> the
> system, so that users can pick the one that's right for them.  Non-
> Linux
> systems don't even have systemd, so GNOME should be appropriately
> packaged so it doesn't have this problem.
> 
> None of this has anything to do with Git the project, which provides
> source tarballs only and relies on distributors to build binary
> packages.  All of these are Debian packaging problems and should be
> reported in a series of bugs to Debian (usually via reportbug).
> 
> In the meantime, you should install the git and git-man packages if
> you
> want to use core Git, and optionally git-email, git-svn, or git-cvs
> if
> you want various other parts.  You don't really want to run git-
> daemon
> outside of a controlled environment because the Git protocol provides
> no
> authentication or encryption and you shouldn't expose such services
> publicly.