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Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167]) by imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org with ESMTPSA id B0wjC00c+GW9aQAAD6G6ig (envelope-from ); Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:49:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:49:44 +0300 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Regarding UDP-Lite deprecation and removal Content-Language: en-US To: Paolo Abeni , Lynne , Netdev Cc: Kuniyu , Willemdebruijn Kernel References: <658523650c342e7ffd2fcc136ac950baca6cf565.camel@redhat.com> From: Denis Kirjanov In-Reply-To: <658523650c342e7ffd2fcc136ac950baca6cf565.camel@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 7.70 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: smtp-out2.suse.de; dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_rsa header.b=K0XK407e; dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_ed25519 header.b=5yLeD3ON X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.70 / 50.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suse.de:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; BAYES_HAM(-0.00)[41.60%]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(3.00)[1.000]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(3.50)[1.000]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[suse.de:dkim]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[amazon.com,gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; RBL_SPAMHAUS_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:104:10:150:64:97:from] X-Spam-Level: ******* X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd1.dmz-prg2.suse.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 95E895C3E3 On 3/18/24 13:36, Paolo Abeni wrote: > On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 01:34 +0100, Lynne wrote: >> UDP-Lite was scheduled to be removed in 2025 in commit >> be28c14ac8bbe1ff due to a lack of real-world users, and >> a long-outstanding security bug being left undiscovered. >> >> I would like to open a discussion to perhaps either avoid this, >> or delay it, conditionally. > > I'm not very familiar to the deprecation process, but I guess this kind > of feedback is the sort of thing that could achieve delaying or avoid > the deprecation. > > What will help more IMHO is someone stepping in to actually maintain > the protocol. It should not be an high load activity, but a few things > would be required: e.g. writing self-tests and ensuring that 3rd party > changes would not break it. And reviewing patches - but given the > protocol history that would probably be once in a lifetime. That's sounds good enough to try > > Cheers, > > Paolo > >