From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=533mJVQBJPiwS2HNmyZ2v6SUXvjO7sz8cmAUbXa9SSo=; b=DiSmyqYZOZvSTnRF1yDiIPeFjXwUzCaYQpYZVS2FZycgMb8787elqJgxCYiM/9e37r EAlZZDO4mQ3GlQDgpff7qErEygdxAgHWjFnMBImYlFb5fRMar8th58IO4cbIWAZDoL8+ fCdD95ohrYm2qE6/PjNaDJuBLYxvDLIEDx+FYPfQ924FUHQqB2wNMiWh/9WKfU5RDzeC FBC9mndYc2FCDEPoxWYtiYAn5tY6SHJTfJ6kv9yRVf36E1Nxt5gLPj2EqNnuoPrD7cLS qYTRGvjWaj+tLaxDMOipQKbWD4PXeMAVV/w4UVFyMUqpfShm2KiHXgvSwqFbThoGmP3J UT7w== Subject: Re: Some questions References: <20160427165357.GD4967@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <2b39d2d5-962b-ce05-aa59-5569abdc4049@gmail.com> <20160427225022.GK4967@linux.vnet.ibm.com> From: Akira Yokosawa Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:01:31 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160427225022.GK4967@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com Cc: perfbook@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 2016/04/27 15:50:22 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 07:15:05AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >> On 2016/04/27 09:53:57 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:21:48AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>>> However, the newly added Table 14.2 "A Variable With More Simultaneous Values" >>>> seems like it is not complete yet. Is that the case? >>> >>> Please see attached for what it looks like to me. >> >> Well, this is identical to the one I built. >> So, do you intend to explicitly put numbers which show up fairly long time, and >> leave other cells blank even below changes of values denoted by (n) in italics? > > The blank cells represent cache misses. The CPU is waiting for a read > to complete during that time. A non-blank cell corresponds to a CPU > actually completing a read. Oh, I see. But this should be explained in the text, I think. > >>>> Looks like you used some custom script or something to generate the table >>>> from a raw data that contains when each cpu sees the updates. >>>> >>>> Do you have a plan to replace the Table with a Figure something like >>>> Figure 14.5 "A Variable With Multiple Simultaneous Values"? >>> >>> I briefly considered coloring the table cells, but got distracted. >> >> That kind of work would be made easy if you make a script or something to >> generate the latex source of the table. The problem is the script itself >> might take time to make it work properly. I could be of help in that area. > > I probably do have something somewhere... No guarantees of finding it... > >>> I am not sure that making a 14.5-like barchart would be all that >>> readable... But please feel free to prove me wrong. >> >> There would be a number of very narrow bars hard to recognize. >> It would also be impossible to see there are fourteen different opinions >> at time 20. Yes, a table seems a better way to represent this. > > Not sure that there is a really good way to represent this, but again, > please feel free to prove me wrong! A nicer representation would be a > very good thing. > > Thanx, Paul > >>>> If you do, I'll refrain from touching the Table. Rather, I'd be interested >>>> in improving the script you might be using, if any. >>>> >>>> Another totally unrelated question is about the URL you placed in >>>> Section C.7: "http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/wiz_2637.html". >>>> Sadly, this URL is no longer valid. Do you happen to aware of an alternative >>>> URL still accessible today? >>> >>> This one: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_2637.html >>> >>>> By looking up a Wikipedia article, I found a page at >>>> http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/technology/chip-docs.html, >>>> which is "Archived technical documentation library" of Alpha >>>> containing links to technical documentation for Alpha microprocessors >>>> and Alpha ATX motherboards. Is there a document there which can be >>>> referred to instead of the above mentioned URL? >>> >>> Ah, I see... I blew it and included the URL verbatim in the text. >>> It should be replaced with \cite{Compaq01}. >>> >>> Fixed, with your Reported-by! Thank you! >> >> Oh, you are most welcome! >> Thanks, Akira >>> >>> Thanx, Paul >>> >> You might need to modify the repeated reference to the URL just before footnote 6 in Section C.7.1 Thanks, Akira