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From: "Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Hailiang Zhang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <lsoaresp@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] migration: Move bitmap_mutex out of migration_bitmap_clear_dirty()
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 12:45:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b94e02b7e7bd4f2a8cbed73cb7756a68@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YOSVZLwZzY/rZ0db@t490s>

On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 1:40 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 12:05:49PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 06.07.21 11:41, Wang, Wei W wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 5, 2021 9:42 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > On 03.07.21 04:53, Wang, Wei W wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 2, 2021 3:07 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > > On 02.07.21 04:48, Wang, Wei W wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 10:22 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 01.07.21 14:51, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that clearly shows the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My theory I did not verify yet: Assume we have 1GB chunks in the clear
> bmap.
> > > > > > Assume the VM reports all pages within a 1GB chunk as free
> > > > > > (easy with a fresh VM). While processing hints, we will clear
> > > > > > the bits from the dirty bmap in the RAMBlock. As we will never
> > > > > > migrate any page of that 1GB chunk, we will not actually clear
> > > > > > the dirty bitmap of the memory region. When re-syncing, we
> > > > > > will set all bits bits in the dirty bmap again from the dirty
> > > > > > bitmap in the memory region. Thus, many of our hints end up
> > > > > > being mostly ignored. The smaller the clear bmap chunk, the
> > > > more extreme the issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, that looks possible. We need to clear the related bits from
> > > > > the memory region bitmap before skipping the free pages. Could
> > > > > you try with
> > > > below patch:
> > > >
> > > > I did a quick test (with the memhog example) and it seems like it mostly
> works.
> > > > However, we're now doing the bitmap clearing from another, racing
> > > > with the migration thread. Especially:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Racing with clear_bmap_set() via
> > > > cpu_physical_memory_sync_dirty_bitmap()
> > > > 2. Racing with migration_bitmap_clear_dirty()
> > > >
> > > > So that might need some thought, if I'm not wrong.
> > >
> > > I think this is similar to the non-clear_bmap case, where the
> > > rb->bmap is set or cleared by the migration thread and
> > > qemu_guest_free_page_hint. For example, the migration thread could find a
> bit is set from rb->bmap before qemu_guest_free_page_hint gets that bit
> cleared in time.
> > > The result is that the free page is transferred, which isn't necessary, but won't
> cause any issue.
> > > This is very rare in practice.
> >
> > Here are my concerns regarding races:
> >
> > a) We now end up calling migration_clear_memory_region_dirty_bitmap()
> > without holding the bitmap_mutex. We have to clarify if that is ok. At
> > least
> > migration_bitmap_clear_dirty() holds it *while* clearing the log and
> > migration_bitmap_sync() while setting bits in the clear_bmap. I think
> > we also have to hold the mutex on the new path.
> 
> Makes sense; I think we can let bitmap_mutex to protect both dirty/clear
> bitmaps, and also the dirty pages counter.  I'll comment in Wei's patch too later.

Btw, what would you think if we change mutex to QemuSpin? It will also reduce the overhead, I think.

Best,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-07 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-30 20:08 [PATCH] migration: Move bitmap_mutex out of migration_bitmap_clear_dirty() Peter Xu
2021-07-01  4:42 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-01 12:51   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-01 14:21     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-02  2:48       ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-02  7:06         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-03  2:53           ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-05 13:41             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-06  9:41               ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-06 10:05                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-06 17:39                   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07 12:45                     ` Wang, Wei W [this message]
2021-07-07 16:45                       ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07 23:25                         ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08  0:21                           ` Peter Xu
2021-07-06 17:47             ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07  8:34               ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-07 16:54                 ` Peter Xu
2021-07-08  2:55                   ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08 18:10                     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-02  2:29     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-06 17:59       ` Peter Xu
2021-07-07  8:33         ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-07 16:44           ` Peter Xu
2021-07-08  2:49             ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-08 18:30               ` Peter Xu
2021-07-09  8:58                 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-09 14:48                   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-13  8:20                     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-03 16:31 ` Lukas Straub
2021-07-04 14:14   ` Lukas Straub
2021-07-06 18:37     ` Peter Xu
2021-07-13  8:40 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-13 10:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-14  5:03     ` Wang, Wei W
2021-07-13 15:59   ` Peter Xu
2021-07-14  5:04     ` Wang, Wei W

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