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From: Sebastian Gottschall <s.gottschall@dd-wrt.com>
To: Petrosilius <petrosilius@posteo.de>,
	Koen Vandeputte <koen.vandeputte@citymesh.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bugreport] ath9k dynack not working/low performance on 5 & 10MHz Bandwidth
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:40:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b98ffbe2-7995-9783-c74f-af1b5f32f575@dd-wrt.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ffcf571-7068-c06f-3879-d02eacdc4895@posteo.de>

just some cents from me. i modified the algorithm a long time ago since 
the dynack way ath9k was going was not correct.
i will look if it can make a patch out of my experiences, but dont 
expect it within the next 2 days.

Am 22.06.2021 um 12:12 schrieb Petrosilius:
> On 22.06.21 11:54, Koen Vandeputte wrote:
>> On 18.06.21 13:13, Petrosilius wrote:
>>> Hello Lorenzo Bianconi,
>>>
>>> we are running a set of R11e-2HPnD devices and having trouble getting
>>> dynack working properly.
>>> Setup:
>>> * linux-5.4.123
>>> * OpenWRT (current development branch) with wireless backports-5.10.34-1
>>> * distance 2m between ap and sta
>>> * Low ambient noise wifi environment
>>> We experienced some non working dynack or low performance in the
>>> connection due to too high calculated ackto's.
>>>
>>> Here is a ath9k debug output example for a non working dynack @ 10Mhz
>>> BW:
>>>
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.500427] ath: phy0:
>>> {48:8f:5a:3c:bb:03} tx sample 44905341 [dur 8720][h 29-t 30]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.500437] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 44844835 st_ts 44905341 st_dur 8720 [17-29]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.500445] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 44923425 st_ts 44905341 st_dur 8720 [18-29]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.554642] ath: phy0: rx
>>> sample 44977693 [h 18-t 20]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.554701] ath: phy0:
>>> {48:8f:5a:3c:bb:03} tx sample 44964984 [dur 6032][h 30-t 31]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.554710] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 44923425 st_ts 44964984 st_dur 6032 [18-30]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.554718] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 44977693 st_ts 44964984 st_dur 6032 [19-30]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.577890] ath: phy0: rx
>>> sample 45000939 [h 19-t 21]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.577946] ath: phy0:
>>> {48:8f:5a:3c:bb:03} tx sample 44998471 [dur 912][h 31-t 32]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.577956] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 44977693 st_ts 44998471 st_dur 912 [19-31]
>>> Wed Jun  2 19:08:50 2021 kern.debug kernel: [  400.577964] ath: phy0:
>>> ack_ts 45000939 st_ts 44998471 st_dur 912 [20-31]
>>>
>>> THe above output is generated in dynack.c by
>>>
>>>           ath_dbg(ath9k_hw_common(ah), DYNACK,
>>>               "ack_ts %u st_ts %u st_dur %u [%u-%u]\n",
>>>               ack_ts, st_ts->tstamp, st_ts->dur,
>>>               da->ack_rbf.h_rb, da->st_rbf.h_rb);
>>>
>>> The ackto is afterwards calculated by
>>>
>>>           if (ack_ts > st_ts->tstamp + st_ts->dur) {
>>>               ackto = ack_ts - st_ts->tstamp - st_ts->dur;
>>>
>>> Filling in the values of the first sample:
>>>
>>> (ack_ts > st_ts->tstamp + st_ts->dur) ?
>>> (44844835 > 44905341+8720) ?
>>> (44844835 > 44914061) ? ... not given
>>>
>>> Therefore a new ackto is not calculated and i can also see that in the
>>> ack_to file:
>>>
>>> 600 A
>>> 600 A
>>> 600 A
>>> ...
>>>
>>> These look like the default values to me (and do not change), but
>>> ath_dynack_get_max_to() should return 750 A for our 10MHz BW case - this
>>> looks also suspecious to me.
>>>
>>> For 5 MHz bandwidth there is a ackto calculated (~382 A, looks a bit too
>>> high to me) but the performance is way below expectation (<1MBit)
>>> For 20 MHz bandwidth there is a ackto calculated (51 A) and the
>>> performance is fitting the expectation.
>>> If you want to take a look at the logs for each of these cases for ap
>>> and sta, you can download them here:
>>> https://cloud.hs-augsburg.de/s/eworxkJoL6JXYzZ
>>>
>>> Did anyone else experience such a behaviour on non 20MHz Channels or
>>> does anyone have an idea on where this behaviour might originate from?
>>> I am not experienced in the ath9k driver code, but a uneducated guess
>>> might be that the ring buffer where the dynack algorithm is taking its
>>> frame-samples from is not behaving as expected for the 5&10MHz case.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> julian dorner
>> Are you stressing the link?
>> I'll try to simulate this later on
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Koen
>>
> Hi Koen,
>
> we didnt stress the link that much.
>
> There was only SSH from the ap to the sta running to get access to the sta.
>
> regards,
>
> Julian
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-22 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-18 11:13 [Bugreport] ath9k dynack not working/low performance on 5 & 10MHz Bandwidth Petrosilius
2021-06-22  9:54 ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-06-22 10:12   ` Petrosilius
2021-06-22 10:40     ` Sebastian Gottschall [this message]
2021-06-22 11:54       ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-07-08 22:02       ` Peter Seiderer
2021-06-22 11:52     ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-06-22 11:53       ` Petrosilius
2021-06-22 12:03         ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-06-22 18:54           ` Petrosilius
2021-06-22 21:01             ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-07-13 14:34             ` Koen Vandeputte
2021-07-14  5:38               ` Sebastian Gottschall
2021-11-09 11:55               ` petrosilius

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