From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1B86D51A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DA622BCE; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:07:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=betafive.co.uk; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=9 yWvTOVMEwD8xVo+pfIXgOzUaQuitHHD6Nemt9uUduM=; b=oKu04FIdg20R0Ffj2 bV2dv3b3GFGdcA0QXCX6B/CQPNQlUdy1FReygDPGMTzF9EJepwqkVhjXivkCbAUT 7BcBlfhgECCMVRXuC9bmmS1THU21tnplkRNBahXY55RFg0OcQzV5pKJJjFbCnyro 0WMJMQbG94x+HMBbmFTLmn2zA4UuP388Ds0PCza576xRW8vYjhQIbvGjogWD3lfR c7+w++vgD0fqqjBIWcHaEZX6WHdGv5zsNHoAZa91q3FRoMzyZ+1LiTwVAIWkxiP1 NfRNFkX6YAvFWJFHAhQfTQYgV1UUMufarcwUBbLoFqus+lgvjOJwXCnEQDt0qsYA 0fdhQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=9yWvTOVMEwD8xVo+pfIXgOzUaQuitHHD6Nemt9uUd uM=; b=TxKD3aFJQeLNILAA+Mn5dE99rf9pDKM6DU7Cg9KOE6ECL3tnXwy7N4kZB yAHFcqoniAZzYFSVgtOiAZJ4ppM4fgV2M3+ExBWRydP6Z7SDuEhntBTAFMcTfnRo ObI3d12XRnCmXq1EH++lxJC23/yWvbCe4RAcbuqEPHdSQ5S2IuKfDbvXQnu1jyrs kFlFNU0/yX3+M7KwHEWq/yu2jqhBbZN4gnRhq1roehg4BP5Ka9d7+t918O/v1L6w ukxcT/RrG+ADO0fEB98oDrwKfb34Ee+PLuurzV6pMHj0cnJsWobmsx8EE/Ln98xU uN/9OOZxgGq9FK1Ivognd69qUTvNg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrgeekgdefkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefuvfhfhfhokffffgggjggtgfesthekredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheprfgruhhl uceurghrkhgvrhcuoehprghulhessggvthgrfhhivhgvrdgtohdruhhkqeenucfkphepke durddukeejrdefvddrudefkeenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgruhhlsegs vghtrghfihhvvgdrtghordhukhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [192.168.2.138] (138.32.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.32.138]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2A62910319; Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:07:21 -0400 (EDT) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_M=c3=bcller?= , Adrian Bunk References: <20190422234617.5419-1-schnitzeltony@gmail.com> <20190423060805.GD18826@localhost> From: Paul Barker Organization: Beta Five Ltd Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:07:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Cc: openembeded-devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] vlc: rework qt PACKAGECONFIG X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 12:07:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 23/04/2019 12:30, Andreas Müller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 8:08 AM Adrian Bunk wrote: >>>> Perhaps we should have qt5 as a distro feature instead? >>> Isn't that a different naming for the same thing not working properly >>> if you don't have meta-qt5 in layers? >> >> Isn't this a reason for moving vlc out of meta-openembedded? >> Or alternatively moving qt5 to meta-openembedded. >> >>> Andreas >> >> cu >> Adrian > This discussion turns into the same direction as seen before on other occasions: > > My priority is building images where things work out of the box and it > seems this expectation is not common here. There are several default > configurations around reducing things down to death to save build time > and make yocto script happy. I disagree completely but won't discuss > further. So I will > > * send V3 of this patch not enabling qt5 if meta-qt5 is in layers > * add a bbappend to my meta-mortsgna because that's what distro layers are for > > Andreas > The issue here is the different 'out of the box' situations Yocto needs to support. Some of the boards I've deployed images on have 16MB flash for the rootfs (with a greatly reduced write speed to the volume due to hardware bugs), others currently have a 16GB SD card in them. Distro layers are the right place for making cut off decisions on the minimum you'll support. A distro config that produces 'out of the box' working images for a subset of the boards Yocto Project supports is definitely a good thing to have. Thanks, -- Paul Barker Managing Director & Principal Engineer Beta Five Ltd