From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1lYvLF-00082b-3z for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:43:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYvLC-00082E-WA for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:43:19 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:47553) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYvLA-0004gJ-R6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:43:18 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.94) with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1lYvL7-003zxo-RI; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:43:13 +0200 Received: from dynamic-077-011-011-198.77.11.pool.telefonica.de ([77.11.11.198] helo=[192.168.1.10]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.94) with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (envelope-from ) id 1lYvL7-003R1b-Gv; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:43:13 +0200 Subject: Re: GRUB 2.06 To: Mike Gilbert References: <20210408165349.otipx6gohm64bsud@tomti.i.net-space.pl> <20210420135316.z5y4hukixhgkkp6w@tomti.i.net-space.pl> <3159d36f-be1c-5d8e-e5f5-3a1a5acac4a2@slint.fr> Cc: The development of GNU GRUB From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:43:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Sender: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 77.11.11.198 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.133.4.66; envelope-from=glaubitz@zedat.fu-berlin.de; helo=outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:43:19 -0000 On 4/20/21 7:50 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > My 2 cents: > > If a distro starts shipping a new version of GCC, they should really > test their packages first and patch them as needed. > > If an end user installs a new version of GCC manually, I would hope > they are smart enough to know that it might break things. > > If an end user builds GRUB manually, they are also responsible for > applying any patches that are necessary for their toolchain. Fully agree on all points. And while I cannot speak for Gentoo, I know that Fedora, Debian and openSUSE did full archive rebuilds with gcc-10 when it was released. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913