From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754231AbbGaWMa (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:12:30 -0400 Received: from mail.phunq.net ([184.71.0.62]:36255 "EHLO starbase.phunq.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753659AbbGaWM2 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:12:28 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: David Lang Cc: Rik van Riel , Jan Kara , , Linux Kernel Mailing List , , OGAWA Hirofumi Subject: Re: [FYI] tux3: Core changes Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:12:20 -0700 User-Agent: Trojita/v0.5-14-g8a2496c; Qt/4.8.6; X11; Linux; Ubuntu 15.04 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <67294911-1776-46b8-916d-0e5642a38725@phunq.net> <20150526070910.GA3307@quack.suse.cz> <20150526090058.GA8024@quack.suse.cz> <5564D60E.6000306@phunq.net> <20150527084138.GD2590@quack.suse.cz> <87a8vtdqfz.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <20150623161247.GP2427@quack.suse.cz> <87k2ueepd6.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <20150709160528.GK2900@quack.suse.cz> <874mklaqbn.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <1981a91e-30a9-43ce-9a05-14aa777e46a5@phunq.net> Organization: tux3.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday, July 31, 2015 11:29:51 AM PDT, David Lang wrote: > We, the Linux Community have less tolerance for losing people's data and preventing them from operating than we used to when it was all tinkerer's personal data and secondary systems. > > So rather than pushing optimizations out to everyone and seeing what breaks, we now do more testing and checking for failures before pushing things out. By the way, I am curious about whose data you think will get lost as a result of pushing out Tux3 with a possible theoretical bug in a wildly improbable scenario that has not actually been described with sufficient specificity to falsify, let alone demonstrated. Regards, Daniel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Phillips Subject: Re: [FYI] tux3: Core changes Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <67294911-1776-46b8-916d-0e5642a38725@phunq.net> <20150526070910.GA3307@quack.suse.cz> <20150526090058.GA8024@quack.suse.cz> <5564D60E.6000306@phunq.net> <20150527084138.GD2590@quack.suse.cz> <87a8vtdqfz.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <20150623161247.GP2427@quack.suse.cz> <87k2ueepd6.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <20150709160528.GK2900@quack.suse.cz> <874mklaqbn.fsf@mail.parknet.co.jp> <1981a91e-30a9-43ce-9a05-14aa777e46a5@phunq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Rik van Riel , Jan Kara , tux3@tux3.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, OGAWA Hirofumi To: David Lang Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tux3-bounces@phunq.net Sender: "Tux3" List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org On Friday, July 31, 2015 11:29:51 AM PDT, David Lang wrote: > We, the Linux Community have less tolerance for losing people's data and preventing them from operating than we used to when it was all tinkerer's personal data and secondary systems. > > So rather than pushing optimizations out to everyone and seeing what breaks, we now do more testing and checking for failures before pushing things out. By the way, I am curious about whose data you think will get lost as a result of pushing out Tux3 with a possible theoretical bug in a wildly improbable scenario that has not actually been described with sufficient specificity to falsify, let alone demonstrated. Regards, Daniel