[Bug 109758] AMD GPU for Ubuntu Linux Broken

[Bug 109758] AMD GPU for Ubuntu Linux Broken

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            Bug ID: 109758
           Summary: AMD GPU for Ubuntu Linux Broken
           Product: DRI
           Version: XOrg git
          Hardware: Other
                OS: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: medium
         Component: DRM/AMDgpu
          Assignee: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
          Reporter: tomhansen992@gmail.com

You should put a warning label up whenever you are handing out free "break your
linux distro" drivers. A few months ago I tried to install the driver on 18.10
I had to look online to find out that it breaking the Linux install was the
intended effect. Okay, so I bought this computer with a 570 like two years ago
and it hasn't been properly supported this entire time. Linux gets updated to
4.18 on Ubuntu and my GPU isn't giving me the same error it has been for the
last entire time I had the computer, exciting. I try to install the drivers and
WOW it breaking is still the intended result. I notice I have Ubuntu 18.04.2,
the one advertised is 18.04.1 and sure enough Google tells me that the intended
effect was to break my Linux. My complaint is if you know that you're going to
break my computer over and over again just give me some warnings, like "hey
this doesn't work on Linux 4.18" instead of just handing it out like Malware.
This is 3 years in and I still do not have proper support for my GPU on Linux.
Sorry for being frustrated but this company has caused my anguish for no good
reason. The error is DKMS failed or something after it installs but you guys
already know that it doesn't work with a fresh install of Ubuntu. I'm not
downgrading my Linux so I get the errors on startup again I have to wait for
you guys to properly support my GPU 2 years after the GPU was released. Do you
guys give refunds for this sort of thing I had to reinstall my operating system
more than 6 times slowing down everything I wanted to do. When rich people have
their time wasted they get to sue people..

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Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |a9016009@gmx.de
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> ---
You need to share first how you manage to find all and any software bugs and
how you test your software on all and any existing architectures and with all
and any existing other software, before you publish your software.

Feel free to discuss whatever the problem is in a forum of your distribution as
this bug report is unactionable, vague, and in the wrong place.

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--- Comment #2 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
Unactionable is not a word. I told you to put warnings when you know that
the download you offer people is going to break their computer.

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> Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> changed bug 109758
> <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758>
> What Removed Added
> CC   a9016009@gmx.de
> Status NEW RESOLVED
> Resolution --- INVALID
>
> *Comment # 1 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c1> on
> bug 109758 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758> from Andre
> Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> *
>
> You need to share first how you manage to find all and any software bugs and
> how you test your software on all and any existing architectures and with all
> and any existing other software, before you publish your software.
>
> Feel free to discuss whatever the problem is in a forum of your distribution as
> this bug report is unactionable, vague, and in the wrong place.
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--- Comment #3 from Michael Eagle <xanto@egaming.ro> ---
I am aware that the following not improve your past situation, but please
keep in mind for the future, that for a regular linux user, there is
currently 0 reasons to choose the proprietary close source amdgpu-pro.

Use the default all opensource instead. It was demonstrated multiple times
that they offer better performance, and robustness. See various articles,
forum posts, reddit/r/linux_gaming, phoronix, etc.

 And also, due to their nature of being packed together with all distros,
are much wider tested by the audience with a much broader hardware
combination. As a added bonus, you can also use the latest and greatest
bleeding endge mesa+kernel(not just that you can, but also highly
recommended) and completely forget about dkms breakage.

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--- Comment #4 from Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> ---
It is, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unactionable

I have no idea which "download" you refer to, why you think that
bugs.freedesktop.org is a place to discuss your problem, or what exact software
and software versions you refer to, so nobody can and will help.

And again: please contact Ubuntu folks about Ubuntu problems. 
You are in the wrong place here. Please understand that. Thanks.

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--- Comment #5 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
Most certainly is an AMD issue, download Ubuntu, download the AMD driver,
it breaks. Your advice is to just not download the drivers, great. How you
rationalize that as acceptable is astounding if I could get a refund I
would just switch to NVidia.

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> *Comment # 4 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c4> on
> bug 109758 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758> from Andre
> Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> *
>
> It is, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unactionable
>
> I have no idea which "download" you refer to, why you think thatbugs.freedesktop.org is a place to discuss your problem, or what exact software
> and software versions you refer to, so nobody can and will help.
>
> And again: please contact Ubuntu folks about Ubuntu problems.
> You are in the wrong place here. Please understand that. Thanks.
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Re: [Bug 109758] AMD GPU for Ubuntu Linux Broken

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Obviously you're used to nvidia/windows way on doing things. You are on
linux now. Opensource is the whole philosophy. So yes, please just use the
free/opensource drivers that come bundled with your favorite distro. This
is the preferred way to go with AMD hardware.

Here's the Radeon 7 with opensource amd drivers:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-vii-linux&num=1

Benchmarks between different mesa versions, so using an ubuntu ppa such as
oibaf or pandoka does matter to get the newest stack and best performance:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=mesa182-4-july&num=1

And.. the icing on a cake, the comparison between opensource radeonsi and
closed source (amdgpu-pro/radeon software aka the one you've downloaded):
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-software-1820&num=1

As you can see, apart from the fact that the closed source one is kind of
behind in performance, it also has some issues running some of the
benchmarks (aka it crashes), hence your experience.

So, in conclusion, yes. For polaris, on linux, use opensource drivers. If
you've messed up the distro with alot of experiments and closed source
driver installations, perhaps it would be better a fresh install and just
use mesa/llvm packages from pandoka ppa stable with a recent ubuntu
mainline kernel.

Goodluck,
Cheers!

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--- Comment #6 from Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> ---
My advice is to write a proper bug report (see
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ) in the proper place (your
distribution's issue tracker). Great!

Regarding "refund" blah: Contact the company whose product you're using.
freedesktop.org is not a company. Hence no "refund". Not here. Bye.

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--- Comment #7 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
I don't need your help I was telling you that distributing malware is
unacceptable. I would consider any software designed to break a person's
computer to be malware, hence the download offered by AMD that tells you to
report bugs to this website. I do not expect a refund from you as you are
clearly spearheading your campaign of irresponsibility and continuing to
make sure that nothing will ever be done right.

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> *Comment # 6 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c6> on
> bug 109758 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758> from Andre
> Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> *
>
> My advice is to write a proper bug report (seehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ) in the proper place (your
> distribution's issue tracker). Great!
>
> Regarding "refund" blah: Contact the company whose product you're using.freedesktop.org is not a company. Hence no "refund". Not here. Bye.
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--- Comment #8 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
I googled you and found out that you are just a shell of a man waiting for
death, openly toxic to anyone with productive views. Listens to effeminate
music and thinks that denying obvious truths is productive. You will go out
of your way to conceal basic truths and rather spread some pseudo
masculinity through bug reports for the rest of your life. Take care

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--- Comment #9 from Andre Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> ---
(In reply to Thomas Hansen from comment #7)
> I was telling you that distributing malware is unacceptable.

You need to contact your distribution (Ubuntu) and not bugs.freedesktop.org if
someone distributes something.
But I've written this several times already and you continue to ignore it. :)

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--- Comment #10 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
Look at what day it is, now look at the website. The website distributes it
through negligence. When I google AMD net worth I see "AMD Company total
revenue is estimated to be over $6 billion. The operating income of the
company is estimated to be over *$220 million* while the net income is
estimated to be $50 million. Total assets of the company are worth over $4
billion, and total equity is worth *$650 million*."

That seems like a large company to not notice the largest Linux
distribution is broken. Or it does know, and it just refuses to update the
website to let people know.

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> bug 109758 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758> from Andre
> Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> *
>
> (In reply to Thomas Hansen from comment #7 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c7>)> I was telling you that distributing malware is unacceptable.
>
> You need to contact your distribution (Ubuntu) and not bugs.freedesktop.org if
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> But I've written this several times already and you continue to ignore it. :)
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--- Comment #11 from Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com> ---
What I am dealing with is something unique to Linux users which is a notion
that it is suppose to be broken

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:50 AM Thomas Hansen <tomhansen992@gmail.com>
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> Look at what day it is, now look at the website. The website distributes
> it through negligence. When I google AMD net worth I see "AMD Company
> total revenue is estimated to be over $6 billion. The operating income of
> the company is estimated to be over *$220 million* while the net income
> is estimated to be $50 million. Total assets of the company are worth over
> $4 billion, and total equity is worth *$650 million*."
>
> That seems like a large company to not notice the largest Linux
> distribution is broken. Or it does know, and it just refuses to update the
> website to let people know.
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:47 AM <bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org> wrote:
>
>> *Comment # 9 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c9> on
>> bug 109758 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758> from Andre
>> Klapper <a9016009@gmx.de> *
>>
>> (In reply to Thomas Hansen from comment #7 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758#c7>)> I was telling you that distributing malware is unacceptable.
>>
>> You need to contact your distribution (Ubuntu) and not bugs.freedesktop.org if
>> someone distributes something.
>> But I've written this several times already and you continue to ignore it. :)
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--- Comment #12 from fin4478@hotmail.com ---
My distribution works fine with RX570.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJ-IatUfis

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--- Comment #13 from Michel Dänzer <michel@daenzer.net> ---
I suspect part of the confusion here is that the component was set incorrectly.
"DRM/AMDgpu" is the amdgpu driver included in the upstream Linux kernel,
whereas Thomas seems to be complaining about a packaged release provided by
AMD, which is "DRM/AMDgpu-pro".

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Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> ---
I think that we can all agree on that this bug can be closed because it doesn't
contain any valuable information.

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109758

--- Comment #20 from Michael Eagle <xanto@egaming.ro> ---
Obviously you're used to nvidia/windows way on doing things. You are on
linux now. Opensource is the whole philosophy. So yes, please just use the
free/opensource drivers that come bundled with your favorite distro. This
is the preferred way to go with AMD hardware.

Here's the Radeon 7 with opensource amd drivers:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-vii-linux&num=1

Benchmarks between different mesa versions, so using an ubuntu ppa such as
oibaf or pandoka does matter to get the newest stack and best performance:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=mesa182-4-july&num=1

And.. the icing on a cake, the comparison between opensource radeonsi and
closed source (amdgpu-pro/radeon software aka the one you've downloaded):
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-software-1820&num=1

As you can see, apart from the fact that the closed source one is kind of
behind in performance, it also has some issues running some of the
benchmarks (aka it crashes), hence your experience.

So, in conclusion, yes. For polaris, on linux, use opensource drivers. If
you've messed up the distro with alot of experiments and closed source
driver installations, perhaps it would be better a fresh install and just
use mesa/llvm packages from pandoka ppa stable with a recent ubuntu
mainline kernel.

Goodluck,
Cheers!

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