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Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 10/1/19 5:54 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 01.10.2019 um 10:57 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben: >> 01.10.2019 3:09, John Snow wrote: >>> Hi folks, I identified a problem with the migration code that Red Hat QE >>> found and thought you'd like to see it: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1652424#c20 >>> >>> Very, very briefly: drive-mirror inserts a filter node that changes what >>> bdrv_get_device_or_node_name() returns, which causes a migration problem. >>> >>> >>> Ignorant question #1: Can we multi-parent the filter node and >>> source-node? It looks like at the moment both consider their only parent >>> to be the block-job and don't have a link back to their parents otherwise. >>> >>> >>> Otherwise: I have a lot of cloudy ideas on how to solve this, but >>> ultimately what we want is to be able to find the "addressable" name for >>> the node the bitmap is attached to, which would be the name of the first >>> ancestor node that isn't a filter. (OR, the name of the block-backend >>> above that node.) >> >> >> Better would be to migrate by node-name only.. But am I right that >> node-names are different on source and destination? Or this situation >> changed? > > Traditionally, I think migration assumes that frontends (guest devices) > must match exactly, but backends may and usually will differ. > > Of course, dirty bitmaps are a backend feature that isn't really related > to guest devices, so this doesn't really work out any more in your case. > BlockBackend names are unusable for this purpose (especially as we're > moving towards anonymous BlockBackends everywhere), which I guess > essentially means node-name is the only option left. > The problem as I see it involves API stability. We allow block-dirty-bitmap-add against e.g. "drive1" through the block-backend name (the name of the "drive" as the user sees it.) Of course, once you start mirror, you aren't able to access that bitmap through that namepair anymore -- the "address" of the bitmap has "changed"! (In actual fact, the bitmap always had two addresses; and simply we lost an alias -- but it's the one that the user likely used to create the bitmap, so that's bad.) > Is bitmap migration something that must be enabled explicitly or does > it happen automatically? If it's explicit, then making an additional > requirement (matching node-names) shouldn't be a problem. > This means that bitmap migration becomes a blockdev-only feature. Serious question: do we have plans to formally deprecate things like -drive and mandate a blockdev workflow, or otherwise work to unify the actual graph that gets created between the two methods? >>> A simple way to do this might be a "child_unfiltered" BdrvChild role >>> that simply bypasses the filter that was inserted and serves no real >>> purpose other than to allow the child to have a parent link and find who >>> it's """real""" parent is. >>> >>> Because of flushing, reopen, sync, drain &c &c &c I'm not sure how >>> feasible this quick idea might be, though. >>> >>> >>> - Corollary fix #1: call error_setg if the bitmap node name that's about >>> to go over the wire is an autogenerated node: this is never correct! >>> >>> (Why not? because the target is incapable of matching the node-name >>> because they are randomly generated AND you cannot specify node-names >>> with # prefixes as they are especially reserved! >>> >>> (This raises a related problem: if you explicitly add bitmaps to nodes >>> with autogenerated names, you will be unable to migrate them.)) >>> >> >> In other words, we need a well defined way to match nodes on source and destination, >> keeping in mind filters, to migrate bitmaps correctly. >> Yes, exactly. >> Hm, did you thought about bitmaps in filters? It's not a problem to create bitmap in >> mirror-top filter during mirror job:) >> >> Or what about bitmaps in Quorum children? Or what about bitmap in qcow2 file child bs? >> >> If node-names are different on source and destination, what is the same? Top blk name >> and bdrv-children names (I recently saw Max's idea to check node "path" in iotest). > > blk_name has to be assumed to be "". The BdrvChild path changes when > filters are inserted (and inserting filters on the destination that > aren't present on the source, or vice versa, sounds like something that > should just work). > > So both parts of this are not great ways for addressing nodes. > >> So, actually node is migration-addressable, if path /root[/child-name] to the >> defines this node directly (we must not have children with same name for some node in >> the path). >> >> And I think it's a correct way to define node in migration stream - by path. > > I'm afraid node-name is the only thing that could possibly work reliably > for identifying nodes. > > Kevin > It sounds like you are saying that bitmaps must become a blockdev-only feature. I'm not sure if I have arrived at that conclusion yet, but it's at least inarguable that with blockdev it's a lot simpler to guarantee correctness. However, we still have -cdrom and -hda and -drive and any number of sugars that I think we aren't committed to getting rid of yet... (or ever?) --js