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From: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, mingo@kernel.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	riel@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, marcos.souza.org@gmail.com,
	hoeun.ryu@gmail.com, pasha.tatashin@oracle.com,
	gs051095@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:48:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1be5b75-d17b-2bbf-8bd2-4e6ade54bdae@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3fyv88o.fsf@xmission.com>

On 01.06.2018 18:25, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
> 
>> On Fri 01-06-18 09:32:42, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
>> [...]
>>>> Group leader exiting early without tearing down the whole thread
>>>> group should be quite rare as well. No question that somebody might do
>>>> that on purpose though...
>>>
>>> The group leader exiting early is a completely legitimate and reasonable
>>> thing to do, even if it is rare.
>>
>> I am not saying it isn't legitimate. But the most common case is the
>> main thread waiting for its threads or calling exit which would tear the
>> whole group down. Is there any easy way to achieve this other than tkill
>> to group leader? Calling exit(3) from the leader performs group exit
>> IIRC.
> 
> pthread_exit from the group leader.
> 
>> I am not arguing this is non-issue. And it certainly is a problem once
>> somebody wants to be nasty... I was more interested how often this
>> really happens for sane workloads.
> 
> That is a fair question.  All I know for certain is that whatever Kirill
> Tkhai's workload was it was triggering this the slow path.

It was triggered on a server, where many VPS of many people are hosted.
Sorry, I have no an idea what they did.

Kirill

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-26 11:00 [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] exit: Move read_unlock() up in mm_update_next_owner() Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:01   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 2/4] exit: Use rcu instead of get_task_struct() " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] exit: Rename assign_new_owner label " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] exit: Lockless iteration over task list " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 12:35   ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 13:52     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 15:56         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 16:04         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:29       ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 16:11         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 13:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Michal Hocko
2018-04-26 13:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 14:07   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 16:19   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 19:28     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27  7:08       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27 18:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:22           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:35             ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02  8:47               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 13:20                 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-05-02 14:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02 19:21                   ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02 21:04                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-02 21:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-03 13:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-03 14:39                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:20                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 14:36                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:54                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 15:49                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 16:22                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 16:40                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] memcg: Update the mm->memcg maintenance to work when !CONFIG_MMU Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:27                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Close the race between migration and installing bprm->mm as mm Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:51                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:00                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:14                                       ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-10 12:18                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-22 12:57                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 19:46                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-24 11:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:16                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-24 23:37                                                 ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-30 12:17                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 18:41                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01  1:57                                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:52                                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: Require every task that uses an mm to migrate together Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: Ensure every task that uses an mm is in the same memory cgroup Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 16:50                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-01 18:11                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 19:16                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 13:01                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 18:47                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 19:11                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-06 11:13                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-07 11:42                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-07 12:19                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcgl: Remove dead code now that all tasks of an mm share a memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:07                                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:17                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-30 11:52                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 17:43                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-07 14:33                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-08  3:15                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:40                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:09                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10  4:03                                             ` [RFC][PATCH] cgroup: Don't mess with tasks in exec Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:15                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10 12:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-05-10 12:38                                             ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 11:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-05 16:54                     ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-07 23:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-08  2:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 21:00                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 23:59               ` [RFC][PATCH] " Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 15:11                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04  4:59                   ` Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 10:52           ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-01  1:07   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 13:57     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 15:02         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-04  6:54             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 14:31               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-05  8:15                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-05  8:48             ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2018-06-05 15:36               ` Eric W. Biederman

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