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Tsirkin" , Jason Wang , Marek Szyprowski , Robin Murphy , linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Janosch Frank , Viktor Mihajlovski , Cornelia Huck , Ram Pai , Thiago Jung Bauermann , David Gibson , "Lendacky, Thomas" , Michael Mueller References: <20200220160606.53156-1-pasic@linux.ibm.com> <20200220160606.53156-2-pasic@linux.ibm.com> <20200220161146.GA12709@lst.de> <4369f099-e4e4-4a58-b38b-642cf53ccca6@de.ibm.com> <20200220163135.GA13192@lst.de> From: Christian Borntraeger Autocrypt: addr=borntraeger@de.ibm.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBE6cPPgBEAC2VpALY0UJjGmgAmavkL/iAdqul2/F9ONz42K6NrwmT+SI9CylKHIX+fdf J34pLNJDmDVEdeb+brtpwC9JEZOLVE0nb+SR83CsAINJYKG3V1b3Kfs0hydseYKsBYqJTN2j CmUXDYq9J7uOyQQ7TNVoQejmpp5ifR4EzwIFfmYDekxRVZDJygD0wL/EzUr8Je3/j548NLyL 4Uhv6CIPf3TY3/aLVKXdxz/ntbLgMcfZsDoHgDk3lY3r1iwbWwEM2+eYRdSZaR4VD+JRD7p8 0FBadNwWnBce1fmQp3EklodGi5y7TNZ/CKdJ+jRPAAnw7SINhSd7PhJMruDAJaUlbYaIm23A +82g+IGe4z9tRGQ9TAflezVMhT5J3ccu6cpIjjvwDlbxucSmtVi5VtPAMTLmfjYp7VY2Tgr+ T92v7+V96jAfE3Zy2nq52e8RDdUo/F6faxcumdl+aLhhKLXgrozpoe2nL0Nyc2uqFjkjwXXI OBQiaqGeWtxeKJP+O8MIpjyGuHUGzvjNx5S/592TQO3phpT5IFWfMgbu4OreZ9yekDhf7Cvn /fkYsiLDz9W6Clihd/xlpm79+jlhm4E3xBPiQOPCZowmHjx57mXVAypOP2Eu+i2nyQrkapaY IdisDQfWPdNeHNOiPnPS3+GhVlPcqSJAIWnuO7Ofw1ZVOyg/jwARAQABzUNDaHJpc3RpYW4g Qm9ybnRyYWVnZXIgKDJuZCBJQk0gYWRkcmVzcykgPGJvcm50cmFlZ2VyQGxpbnV4LmlibS5j b20+wsF5BBMBAgAjBQJdP/hMAhsDBwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQEXu8 gLWmHHy/pA/+JHjpEnd01A0CCyfVnb5fmcOlQ0LdmoKWLWPvU840q65HycCBFTt6V62cDljB kXFFxMNA4y/2wqU0H5/CiL963y3gWIiJsZa4ent+KrHl5GK1nIgbbesfJyA7JqlB0w/E/SuY NRQwIWOo/uEvOgXnk/7+rtvBzNaPGoGiiV1LZzeaxBVWrqLtmdi1iulW/0X/AlQPuF9dD1Px hx+0mPjZ8ClLpdSp5d0yfpwgHtM1B7KMuQPQZGFKMXXTUd3ceBUGGczsgIMipZWJukqMJiJj QIMH0IN7XYErEnhf0GCxJ3xAn/J7iFpPFv8sFZTvukntJXSUssONnwiKuld6ttUaFhSuSoQg OFYR5v7pOfinM0FcScPKTkrRsB5iUvpdthLq5qgwdQjmyINt3cb+5aSvBX2nNN135oGOtlb5 tf4dh00kUR8XFHRrFxXx4Dbaw4PKgV3QLIHKEENlqnthH5t0tahDygQPnSucuXbVQEcDZaL9 WgJqlRAAj0pG8M6JNU5+2ftTFXoTcoIUbb0KTOibaO9zHVeGegwAvPLLNlKHiHXcgLX1tkjC DrvE2Z0e2/4q7wgZgn1kbvz7ZHQZB76OM2mjkFu7QNHlRJ2VXJA8tMXyTgBX6kq1cYMmd/Hl OhFrAU3QO1SjCsXA2CDk9MM1471mYB3CTXQuKzXckJnxHkHOwU0ETpw8+AEQAJjyNXvMQdJN t07BIPDtbAQk15FfB0hKuyZVs+0lsjPKBZCamAAexNRk11eVGXK/YrqwjChkk60rt3q5i42u PpNMO9aS8cLPOfVft89Y654Qd3Rs1WRFIQq9xLjdLfHh0i0jMq5Ty+aiddSXpZ7oU6E+ud+X Czs3k5RAnOdW6eV3+v10sUjEGiFNZwzN9Udd6PfKET0J70qjnpY3NuWn5Sp1ZEn6lkq2Zm+G 9G3FlBRVClT30OWeiRHCYB6e6j1x1u/rSU4JiNYjPwSJA8EPKnt1s/Eeq37qXXvk+9DYiHdT PcOa3aNCSbIygD3jyjkg6EV9ZLHibE2R/PMMid9FrqhKh/cwcYn9FrT0FE48/2IBW5mfDpAd YvpawQlRz3XJr2rYZJwMUm1y+49+1ZmDclaF3s9dcz2JvuywNq78z/VsUfGz4Sbxy4ShpNpG REojRcz/xOK+FqNuBk+HoWKw6OxgRzfNleDvScVmbY6cQQZfGx/T7xlgZjl5Mu/2z+ofeoxb vWWM1YCJAT91GFvj29Wvm8OAPN/+SJj8LQazd9uGzVMTz6lFjVtH7YkeW/NZrP6znAwv5P1a DdQfiB5F63AX++NlTiyA+GD/ggfRl68LheSskOcxDwgI5TqmaKtX1/8RkrLpnzO3evzkfJb1 D5qh3wM1t7PZ+JWTluSX8W25ABEBAAHCwV8EGAECAAkFAk6cPPgCGwwACgkQEXu8gLWmHHz8 2w//VjRlX+tKF3szc0lQi4X0t+pf88uIsvR/a1GRZpppQbn1jgE44hgF559K6/yYemcvTR7r 6Xt7cjWGS4wfaR0+pkWV+2dbw8Xi4DI07/fN00NoVEpYUUnOnupBgychtVpxkGqsplJZQpng v6fauZtyEcUK3dLJH3TdVQDLbUcL4qZpzHbsuUnTWsmNmG4Vi0NsEt1xyd/Wuw+0kM/oFEH1 4BN6X9xZcG8GYUbVUd8+bmio8ao8m0tzo4pseDZFo4ncDmlFWU6hHnAVfkAs4tqA6/fl7RLN JuWBiOL/mP5B6HDQT9JsnaRdzqF73FnU2+WrZPjinHPLeE74istVgjbowvsgUqtzjPIG5pOj cAsKoR0M1womzJVRfYauWhYiW/KeECklci4TPBDNx7YhahSUlexfoftltJA8swRshNA/M90/ i9zDo9ySSZHwsGxG06ZOH5/MzG6HpLja7g8NTgA0TD5YaFm/oOnsQVsf2DeAGPS2xNirmknD jaqYefx7yQ7FJXXETd2uVURiDeNEFhVZWb5CiBJM5c6qQMhmkS4VyT7/+raaEGgkEKEgHOWf ZDP8BHfXtszHqI3Fo1F4IKFo/AP8GOFFxMRgbvlAs8z/+rEEaQYjxYJqj08raw6P4LFBqozr nS4h0HDFPrrp1C2EMVYIQrMokWvlFZbCpsdYbBI= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 18:00:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200220163135.GA13192@lst.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 20022017-0016-0000-0000-000002E8AD89 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 20022017-0017-0000-0000-0000334BCAF3 Message-Id: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.138,18.0.572 definitions=2020-02-20_04:2020-02-19,2020-02-20 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 impostorscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=739 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 20.02.20 17:31, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 05:23:20PM +0100, Christian Borntraeger wrote: >> >From a users perspective it makes absolutely perfect sense to use the >> bounce buffers when they are NEEDED. >> Forcing the user to specify iommu_platform just because you need bounce buffers >> really feels wrong. And obviously we have a severe performance issue >> because of the indirections. > > The point is that the user should not have to specify iommu_platform. I (and Halil) agree on that. From a user perspective we want to have the right thing in the guest without any command option. The iommu_plaform thing was indeed a first step to make things work. I might mis-read Halils patch, but isnt one effect of this patch set that things WILL work without iommu_platform? > We need to make sure any new hypervisor (especially one that might require > bounce buffering) always sets it, as was a rather bogus legacy hack > that isn't extensibe for cases that for example require bounce buffering. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200220163135.GA13192@lst.de> Content-Language: en-US X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 x-cbid: 20022017-0016-0000-0000-000002E8AD89 X-IBM-AV-DETECTION: SAVI=unused REMOTE=unused XFE=unused x-cbparentid: 20022017-0017-0000-0000-0000334BCAF3 Message-Id: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.138, 18.0.572 definitions=2020-02-20_04:2020-02-19, 2020-02-20 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=722 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2001150001 definitions=main-2002200126 Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Janosch Frank , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Jason Wang , Cornelia Huck , Ram Pai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Halil Pasic , iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, David Gibson , Michael Mueller , "Lendacky, Thomas" , Viktor Mihajlovski , Robin Murphy X-BeenThere: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues for Linux IOMMU support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: iommu-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Sender: "iommu" On 20.02.20 17:31, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 05:23:20PM +0100, Christian Borntraeger wrote: >> >From a users perspective it makes absolutely perfect sense to use the >> bounce buffers when they are NEEDED. >> Forcing the user to specify iommu_platform just because you need bounce buffers >> really feels wrong. And obviously we have a severe performance issue >> because of the indirections. > > The point is that the user should not have to specify iommu_platform. I (and Halil) agree on that. From a user perspective we want to have the right thing in the guest without any command option. The iommu_plaform thing was indeed a first step to make things work. I might mis-read Halils patch, but isnt one effect of this patch set that things WILL work without iommu_platform? > We need to make sure any new hypervisor (especially one that might require > bounce buffering) always sets it, as was a rather bogus legacy hack > that isn't extensibe for cases that for example require bounce buffering. _______________________________________________ iommu mailing list iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu