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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Dmitriy Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] printk: Add line-buffered printk() API.
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:54:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4b4d3df-53c6-e938-122e-c172ba8b2500@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107102154.pobr7yrl5il76be6@pathway.suse.cz>

On 2018/11/07 19:21, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2018-11-06 23:35:02, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
>>> Since we want to remove "struct cont" eventually, we will try to remove
>>> both "implicit printk() users who are expecting KERN_CONT behavior" and
>>> "explicit pr_cont()/printk(KERN_CONT) users". Therefore, converting to
>>> this API is recommended.
>>
>> - The printk-fallback sounds like a hint that the existing 'cont' handling
>>   better stay in the kernel. I don't see how the existing 'cont' is
>>   significantly worse than
>> 		bpr_warn(NULL, ...)->printk() // no 'cont' support
>>   I don't see why would we want to do it, sorry. I don't see "it takes 16
>>   printk-buffers to make a thing go right" as a sure thing.
> 
> I see it the following way:
> 
>    + mixed cont lines are very rare but they happen
> 
>    + 16 buffers are more than 1 so it could only be better [*]
> 
>    + the printk_buffer() code is self-contained and does not
>      complicate the logic of the classic printk() code [**]
> 
> 
> [*] A missing put_printk_buffer() might cause that we would get
>     out of buffers. But the same problem is with locks,
>     disabled preemption, disabled interrupts, seq_buffer,
>     alloc/free. Such problems happen but they are rare.
> 
>     Also I do not expect that the same buffer would be shared
>     between many functions. Therefore it should be easy
>     to use it correctly.

Since we can allocate printk() buffer upon dup_task_struct()
and free it upon free_task_struct(), we can have enough printk()
buffers for task context. Also, since total number of exceptional
contexts (e.g. interrupts, oops) is finite, we can have enough
printk() buffers for exceptional contexts.

Is it possible to identify all locations which should use their own
printk() buffers (e.g. interrupt handlers, oops handlers) ? If yes,
despite Linus's objection, automatically switching printk() buffers
(like memalloc_nofs_save()/memalloc_nofs_restore() instead of
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/201709021512.DJG00503.JHOSOFFMFtVLOQ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp )
will be easiest and least error prone.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-02 13:31 Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-02 13:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: Use line-buffered printk() for show_free_areas() Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-07 14:07   ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-02 13:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] lockdep: Use line-buffered printk() for lockdep messages Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-02 13:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-03  2:00     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-06  8:38     ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-06  9:05       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-06 12:57         ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-06  9:56       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-07 15:19   ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-08  4:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-08 11:37       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-09  6:12         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-09  9:55           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-09 15:43             ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-10  2:42               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-23 12:46                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-23 13:12                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-23 15:56                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-24  0:24                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-26  4:34                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-28 13:29                     ` David Laight
2018-11-29 10:09                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-30 16:01                         ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-10  8:52               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-23 12:52                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-09 14:08           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-09 14:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-08 11:53       ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-08 12:44         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-08 14:21           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-09  9:54     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-02 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] printk: Add line-buffered printk() API Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-03  1:55   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-02 18:12 ` kbuild test robot
2018-11-02 18:12   ` kbuild test robot
2018-11-06 14:35 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-07 10:21   ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-07 12:54     ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2018-11-08  2:21     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-08 11:24       ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-08 11:46         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-08 12:30         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-09 14:10           ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-12  7:59             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-12 10:42               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-17 10:14               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-07 10:52   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-07 11:01     ` David Laight
2018-11-07 12:00       ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-07 11:45     ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-08  2:30     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-07 13:41 ` Petr Mladek
2018-11-07 14:06 ` Petr Mladek

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