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From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: Runa Guo-oc <RunaGuo-oc@zhaoxin.com>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	Cobe Chen <CobeChen@zhaoxin.com>, Tim Guo <TimGuo@zhaoxin.com>,
	TonyW Wang <TonyWWang@zhaoxin.com>, Leo Liu <LeoLiu@zhaoxin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ahci: Add PhyRdy Change control on actual LPM capability
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 10:14:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5462af9-eddc-5b39-253f-680f57aacc09@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4824f9b5-92c1-a53b-2174-1d096e723e13@zhaoxin.com>

On 2022/05/07 9:36, Runa Guo-oc wrote:
> On 2022/5/2 21:05, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 2022/04/27 19:18, Runa Guo-oc wrote:
>>> On 2022/4/23 6:37, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>> On 4/22/22 18:57, RunaGuo-oc wrote:
>>>>> On 2022/4/21 18:39, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/21/22 18:43, Runa Guo-oc wrote:
>>>>>>> On some platform, when OS enables LPM by default (eg, min_power),
>>>>>>> then, PhyRdy Change cannot be detected if ahci supports no LPM.
>>>>>> Do you mean "...if the ahci adapter does not support LPM." ?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If that is what you mean, then min_power should not be set.
>>>>> Yes, I agree with you. But, as we know, link_power_management
>>>>> is a user policy which can be modified, if some users are not
>>>>> familiar with ahci spec, then the above case may happen.
>>>> Users should *never* need to be aware of the HW specs and what can or
>>>> cannot be done with a particular adapter/drive. User actions trying to
>>>> enable an unsupported feature should be failed, always.
>>>>
>>>> In your case though, quickly checking the AHCI specs, the scontrol
>>>> register bits you change seem to be for preventing *device* initiated
>>>> power mode transitions, not user/host initiated operations. Your commit
>>>> message should clearly mention that. But I still need to spend more time
>>>> re-reading the specs to confirm. Will do that next week.
>>>>
>>>> Since you added the CAP flags, these flags should be used to detect low
>>>> power policies that can be allowed for user actions.
>>>>
>>>> Mario,
>>>>
>>>> Please rebase and repost your patches ! I rebased the for-5.19 branch on
>>>> rc3 to have the LPM config name revert. We need to fix this LPM mess :)
>>>>
>>>>>>     Mario has patches to fix that.
>>>>>     
>>>>> Hmm. How to patch this case ?
>>>> Mario's patches modify the beginning of the sata_link_scr_lpm() function
>>>> to prevent setting an LPM policy that the adapter/drive does not support.
>>>> This together with the correct bits set/reset in the scr register will
>>>> only allow LPM transitions that are supported.
>>>>
>>>> It may also be good to revisit ata_scsi_lpm_store() to prevent the user
>>>> from setting an unsupported policy. Currently, that uselessly triggers an
>>>> EH sequence.
>>> To avoid some confusion in this patch set, I want to explain it here.
>>> The patch set involves two LPM related issues, one for the ahci adapter
>>> does not support LPM (no partial & slumber & devslp), the other for
>>> ahci adapter supports part of LPM(eg, only partial, no slumber & devslp).
>>>
>>> The former case is what I metioned in this mail thread. Namely, when LPM is
>>> enabled, actions trying to enable this unsupported feature will be failed,
>>> but will disable PORT_IRQ_PHYRDY bit at the beginning of the ahci_set_lpm()
>>> function, which would make PhyRdy Changed cannot be detected. So I add flags
>>> in the ata_eh_set_lpm() function which will not go to the disable operation.
>>>
>>> The latter case is what I metioned in "PATCH[2/2]". Namely, if the ahci
>>> adapter only supports partial (no slumber & devslp), then when LPM is enabled
>>> (eg, min_power), *device* initiated power mode transitions will be enabled
>>> with the scontrol register bits setting to indicate no restrictions on LPM
>>> transitions. After that, if SSD/HDD sends a DIPM slumber request, it cannot
>>> be disallowed by ahci adpter for driver not setting scontrol register bits
>>> properly. So I add flags to control it.
>>>
>>> Therefore, Mario's patches in the sata_link_scr_lpm() function may fix the
>>> issue in "PATCH[2/2]".
>>>
>>> Revisit ata_scsi_lpm_store() to prevent the user from setting an unsupported
>>> policy may be a way to fix the issue in "PATCH[1/2]", but there may be another
>>> case where some operating system manufacturers setting LPM default enable in
>>> driver, like the following code in the ahci_init_one() function, also need to
>>> control.
>>>
>>> 	if (ap->flags & ATA_FLAG_EM)
>>> 		ap->em_message_type = hpriv->em_msg_type;
>>>
>>> +        ap->target_lpm_policy = ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER;
>> This one looks wrong. This is set inside ahci_update_initial_lpm_policy()
>> according to the default kernel config (CONFIG_SATA_MOBILE_LPM_POLICY) and
>> module param + what the drive can do according to ACPI. The problem though is
>> that the adapter capabilities are not checked in that function, so the initial
>> target lpm policy may be wrong.
>>
>> Since your patch 1/2 adds the hpriv flags indicating the capabilities, you need
>> to use these in ahci_update_initial_lpm_policy() to validate whatever initial
>> policy is asked for by the user.
> 
> Yes, the above code is not rigorous, existing methods provided by kernel as you
> said should be used in this case.
> 
> In order to use CAP flags to validate user policy, I review the latest kernel
> LPM policies, here is my understanding:
> ATA_LPM_UNKNOWN: default policy, no LPM
> ATA_LPM_MAX_POWER: disable LPM (hipm & dipm)
> ATA_LPM_MED_POWER: enable hipm partial
> ATA_LPM_MED_POWER_WITH_DIPM: enable hipm partial &dipm partial &slumber
> ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER_WITH_PARTIAL: enable hipm partial &dipm partial&slumber&devslp
> ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER: enable hipm slumber &dipm partial &slumber &devslp
> hipm: adpter initiated power mode transitions;
> dipm:*device* initiated power mode transitions;
> 
>  From my comprehension, user policy in [ATA_LPM_MED_POWER, ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER]
> need to be validated on adapter's capabilities (partial(y/n), slumber(y/n),
> devslp(y/n)), so, there exits the following cases:

Note that devslp is a device side feature too. See ata_dev_config_devslp() in
libata-core.c. So even if the adapter supports devslp, if the drive does not,
devslp should not be enabled on the port.

> 1, (n, n, n), validate  it to ATA_LPM_UNKNOWN;
> 2, (n, n, y), validate  it to  ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER_WITH_PARTIAL/ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER?
> 3, (n, y, n), validate  it to ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER;
> 4, (n, y, y), validate  it to ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER;
> 5, (y, n, n), validate  it to ATA_LPM_MED_POWER;
> 6, (y, n, y), validate  it to ATA_LPM_MIN_POWER_WITH_PARTIAL;
> 7, (y, y, n), default user policy;
> 8, (y, y, y), default user policy;
> ('y' for support, 'n' for not support)
> 
> for case 2, I'm not quiet sure, for which may enable hipm partial/slumber.

For all above cases, the default should be to use the default configured policy
defined by SATA_MOBILE_LPM_POLICY or the ahci module parameter but corrected to
match what the adapter & device support, including the eventual NO LPM horkage
flag. Mario's patch started addressing that, but that patch can be improved
using yours.

> The way I provided above is quiet complicated and may be incomplete.
> It may not be realistic to take all into account, but I think case 1 should
> be taken seriously for which may cause the above PORT_IRQ_PHYRDY issue.

yes.

> Perhaps, I could refer to Mario's patches later (I have not found yet on
> kernel/git ^_^).

Mario's patch is here:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220404194510.9206-2-mario.limonciello@amd.com/

Can you add that patch into your series with eventual modifications to better
check the adapter's CAP bits ?

Mario ? Are you OK with that ?


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-11  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-21  9:43 [PATCH 0/2] ahci: Add some controls on actual LPM capability Runa Guo-oc
2022-04-21  9:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] ahci: Add PhyRdy Change control " Runa Guo-oc
2022-04-21 10:39   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-22  9:57     ` RunaGuo-oc
2022-04-22 22:37       ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-27 10:18         ` Runa Guo-oc
2022-05-02 13:05           ` Damien Le Moal
2022-05-07  7:36             ` Runa Guo-oc
2022-05-11  8:14               ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2022-05-18 21:31                 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-04-21  9:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] ahci: Add PxSCTL.IPM " Runa Guo-oc
2022-04-21 10:53   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-04-22  9:58     ` RunaGuo-oc

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