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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: George Dunlap <dunlapg@umich.edu>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] x86: allow Meltdown band-aid to be disabled
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:21:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c57288e4-d351-7de3-8a60-467c45c09542@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLBxZa12YCq_=jnPK_s-ZbRk6=p9AL+MY0K=SiJL+e-OT+4ZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/01/18 13:12, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> First of all we don't need it on AMD systems. Additionally allow its use
>> to be controlled by command line option. For best backportability, this
>> intentionally doesn't use alternative instruction patching to achieve
>> the intended effect - while we likely want it, this will be later
>> follow-up.
> 
> Is it worth making it optional to apply to dom0?  In most cases, if an
> attacker can manage to get userspace on dom0, they should be able to
> take over the whole system anyway; turning it off on dom0 to get
> better performance seems like a policy decision that administrators
> might reasonably make.

You are implying here that Linux is insecure: why does userspace access
allow you to take over the machine? I can see that being true for root
access, but not for any other unprivileged user account.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15 11:01 [PATCH v2 0/2] x86: initial simplistic Meltdown mitigation Jan Beulich
2018-01-15 11:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86: Meltdown band-aid against malicious 64-bit PV guests Jan Beulich
2018-01-15 18:23   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16  7:46     ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 11:51       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 12:33         ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 13:26           ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16  9:33     ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 11:56       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 12:25         ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-15 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86: allow Meltdown band-aid to be disabled Jan Beulich
2018-01-15 18:26   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16  8:12     ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 13:20       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 13:51         ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 12:12   ` George Dunlap
2018-01-16 12:21     ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2018-01-16 12:39       ` George Dunlap
2018-01-16 12:35     ` Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 12:40       ` George Dunlap
2018-01-16 15:16 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] x86: initial simplistic Meltdown mitigation Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 15:21   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] x86: Meltdown band-aid against malicious 64-bit PV guests Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 16:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 17:28     ` Andy Smith
2018-01-16 18:02       ` George Dunlap
2018-01-16 18:13       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 19:02       ` Wei Liu
2018-01-16 15:22   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] x86: allow Meltdown band-aid to be disabled Jan Beulich
2018-01-16 16:07     ` Andrew Cooper

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