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From: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, tiwai@suse.com,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	hdegoede@redhat.com, amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] ASoC: core: Inline resume work back to resume function
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 20:22:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c600f448-9cbc-c67b-96ee-e78490f0495b@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2kWKRLp2WARpPqZ@sirena.org.uk>

On 2022-11-07 3:28 PM, Mark Brown wrote:

> It'd be good to at least have some idea of practical usage as well, the
> functions return void because nothing was making any use of the return
> values.

The problem is mainly connected to a resume operation as even if 
something fails at suspend, there is a chance for the driver to recover 
things up during resume.

Now, if something fails during the resume operation, blindly returning 0 
makes userspace think everything is fine and we can keep going, whereas 
the stream may no longer be operational and requires complete recovery 
(close, reopen).

alsa-utils/aplay/aplay.c does snd_pcm_resume() as long as -EAGAIN is 
returned, then falls back to snd_pcm_prepare() before finally giving up. 
As snd_pcm_prepare() checks pcm's state before invoking ->prepare(), one 
option is to set substream->runtime->status->state to 
SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DISCONNECTED to ensure dai->hw_free() gets called right 
after.

TLDR: it all comes down to some granularity missing. Suspend/resume for 
the AudioDSP drivers do basically entire pcm-lifecycle within what is 
supposed to be a simple TRIGGER_SUSPEND/RESUME operation.

> There's also an expectation that suspend and resume be fast...

You're right. Sound devices should not disturb the PM for the entire system.

Looking at this after thinking the performance/stability argument 
through, indeed deferring work is a good way of dealing with the situation.


Regards,
Czarek

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-08 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04 13:12 [PATCH 0/3] ASoC: core: Suspend/resume error propagation Cezary Rojewski
2022-11-04 13:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] ASoC: component: Propagate result of suspend and resume callbacks Cezary Rojewski
2022-11-04 14:00   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-11-07  8:51     ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2022-11-07 14:11       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-11-04 13:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] ASoC: core: Inline resume work back to resume function Cezary Rojewski
2022-11-04 13:58   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-11-04 23:54     ` Mark Brown
2022-11-07  9:26       ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-11-07 14:28         ` Mark Brown
2022-11-08 19:22           ` Cezary Rojewski [this message]
2022-11-04 13:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] ASoC: core: Propagate component suspend/resume errors Cezary Rojewski

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