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From: "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: dust.li@linux.alibaba.com, kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] net/smc: Reduce overflow of smc clcsock listen queue
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:51:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cdbb6235-34dd-bc65-304d-0f09accad6a3@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220105150612.GA75522@e02h04389.eu6sqa>


One problem for the fallback scenario is that server must actively send 
decline message to client and wait for the clc proposal message that 
client may already sent, otherwise the message of SMC handshake may be 
read by user space application, which will also lead to OOM conditions 
caused by infinite amount of dangling sockets.

In that case, we have to make restrictions on 'SMC fallback ing', which 
makes things more complicated.

Any advise will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.


在 2022/1/5 下午11:06, D. Wythe 写道:
> LGTM. Fallback makes the restrictions on SMC dangling
> connections more meaningful to me, compared to dropping them.
> 
> Overall, i see there are two scenario.
> 
> 1. Drop the overflow connections limited by userspace application
> accept.
> 
> 2. Fallback the overflow connections limited by the heavy process of
> current SMC handshake. ( We can also control its behavior through
> sysctl.)
> 
> I'll follow those advise to improve my patch, more advise will be highly
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 02:17:41PM +0100, Karsten Graul wrote:
>> On 05/01/2022 09:57, dust.li wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 12:40:49PM +0800, D. Wythe wrote:
>>> I'm thinking maybe we can actively fall back to TCP in this case ? Not
>>> sure if this is a good idea.
>>
>> I think its a good decision to switch new connections to use the TCP fallback when the
>> current queue of connections waiting for a SMC handshake is too large.
>> With this the application is able to accept all incoming connections and they are not
>> dropped. The only thing that is be different compared to TCP is that the order of the
>> accepted connections is changed, connections that came in later might reach the user space
>> application earlier than connections that still run the SMC hand shake processing.
>> But I think that is semantically okay.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06  3:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-04 13:12 [PATCH net-next v2] net/smc: Reduce overflow of smc clcsock listen queue D. Wythe
2022-01-04 13:45 ` Karsten Graul
2022-01-04 16:17   ` D. Wythe
2022-01-05  4:40   ` D. Wythe
2022-01-05  8:28     ` Tony Lu
2022-01-05  8:57     ` dust.li
2022-01-05 13:17       ` Karsten Graul
2022-01-05 15:06         ` D. Wythe
2022-01-05 19:13           ` Karsten Graul
2022-01-06  7:05             ` Tony Lu
2022-01-13  8:07               ` Karsten Graul
2022-01-13 18:50                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-01-20 13:39                 ` Tony Lu
2022-01-20 16:00                   ` Stefan Raspl
2022-01-21  2:47                     ` Tony Lu
2022-02-16 11:46                 ` dust.li
2022-01-06  3:51           ` D. Wythe [this message]
2022-01-06  9:54             ` Karsten Graul

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