Re: Question about qspinlock nest

From: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	SRINIVAS <srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Question about qspinlock nest
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:25:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d06126a1-1db8-f937-2084-2c1234b6f56f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <910e9fb6-d0df-4711-fe2b-244b3c20eb82@redhat.com>

Hi Longman, Zhenzhong,

On 10/01/2019 14:43, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 01/10/2019 03:02 AM, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>> There is a question confused me for days. Appreciate an answer.
>>
>> In below code, the comment says we never have more than 4 nested
>> contexts.
>>
>> What happen if debug and mce exceptions nest with the four, or we
>> ensure it never happen?
>>
>>
>> /*
>>  * Per-CPU queue node structures; we can never have more than 4 nested
>>  * contexts: task, softirq, hardirq, nmi.
>>  *
>>  * Exactly fits one 64-byte cacheline on a 64-bit architecture.
>>  *
>>  * PV doubles the storage and uses the second cacheline for PV state.
>>  */
>> static DEFINE_PER_CPU_ALIGNED(struct qnode, qnodes[MAX_NODES]);

> Yes, both debug and mce exceptions are some kind of NMIs. So
> theoretically, it is possible to have more than four. Are you aware of
> any debug and MCE exception handlers that need to take a spinlock for
> synchronization?

On arm64 if all the RAS and psuedo-NMI patches land, our worst-case interleaving
jumps to at least 7. The culprit is APEI using spinlocks to protect fixmap slots.

I have an RFC to bump the number of node bits from 2 to 3, but as this is APEI
four times, it may be preferable to make it use something other than spinlocks.

The worst-case order is below. Each one masks those before it:
1. process context
2. soft-irq
3. hard-irq
4. psuedo-nmi [0]
   - using the irqchip priorities to configure some IRQs as NMI.
5. SError [1]
   - a bit like an asynchronous MCE. ACPI allows this to convey CPER records,
     requiring an APEI call.
6&7. SDEI [2]
     - a firmware triggered software interrupt, only its two of them, either of
       which could convey CPER records.
8. Synchronous external abort
   - again, similar to MCE. There are systems using this with APEI.

Thanks,

James

[0] lore.kernel.org/r/1546956464-48825-1-git-send-email-julien.thierry@arm.com
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/r/1527770506-8076-1-git-send-email-gengdongjiu@huawei.com
[2]
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20181203180613.228133-26-james.morse@arm.com/