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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>, Hongyan Xia <hx242@xen.org>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, jgrall@amazon.com,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>, "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"Ian Jackson" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/15] x86/mm: rewrite virt_to_xen_l*e
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:49:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d75fd45c-3f66-63c9-90c7-90dc10fc5763@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f25e278f-2d63-d806-4650-983df490556f@xen.org>

On 13.08.2020 19:22, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 13/08/2020 17:08, Hongyan Xia wrote:
>> On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 16:05 +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 27.07.2020 16:21, Hongyan Xia wrote:
>>>> From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
>>>>
>>>> Rewrite those functions to use the new APIs. Modify its callers to
>>>> unmap
>>>> the pointer returned. Since alloc_xen_pagetable_new() is almost
>>>> never
>>>> useful unless accompanied by page clearing and a mapping, introduce
>>>> a
>>>> helper alloc_map_clear_xen_pt() for this sequence.
>>>>
>>>> Note that the change of virt_to_xen_l1e() also requires
>>>> vmap_to_mfn() to
>>>> unmap the page, which requires domain_page.h header in vmap.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changed in v8:
>>>> - s/virtual address/linear address/.
>>>> - BUG_ON() on NULL return in vmap_to_mfn().
>>>
>>> The justification for this should be recorded in the description. In
>>
>> Will do.
>>
>>> reply to v7 I did even suggest how to easily address the issue you
>>> did notice with large pages, as well as alternative behavior for
>>> vmap_to_mfn().
>>
>> One thing about adding SMALL_PAGES is that vmap is common code and I am
>> not sure if the Arm side is happy with it.
> 
> At the moment, Arm is only using small mapping but I plan to change that soon because we have regions that can be fairly big.
> 
> Regardless that, the issue with vmap_to_mfn() is rather x86 specific. So I don't particularly like the idea to expose such trick in common code.
> 
> Even on x86, I think this is not the right approach. Such band-aid will impact the performance as, assuming superpages are used, it will take longer to map and add pressure on the TLBs.
> 
> I am aware that superpages will be useful for LiveUpdate, but is there any use cases in upstream?

Superpage use by vmalloc() is purely occasional: You'd have to vmalloc()
2Mb or more _and_ the page-wise allocation ought to return 512
consecutive pages in the right order. Getting 512 consecutive pages is
possible in practice, but with the page allocator allocating top-down it
is very unlikely for them to be returned in increasing-sorted order.

> If not, could we just use the BUG_ON() and implement correctly vmap_to_mfn() in a follow-up?

My main concern with the BUG_ON() is that it detects a problem long after
it was introduced (when the mapping was established). I'd rather see a
BUG_ON() added there if use of MAP_SMALL_PAGES is deemed unsuitable.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-18  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-27 14:21 [PATCH v8 00/15] switch to domheap for Xen page tables Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 01/15] x86/mm: map_pages_to_xen would better have one exit path Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 02/15] x86/mm: make sure there is one exit path for modify_xen_mappings Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 03/15] x86/mm: rewrite virt_to_xen_l*e Hongyan Xia
2020-08-07 14:05   ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-13 16:08     ` Hongyan Xia
2020-08-13 17:22       ` Julien Grall
2020-08-18  8:49         ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2020-08-18 10:13           ` Julien Grall
2020-08-18 11:30             ` Jan Beulich
2020-08-18 13:08               ` Julien Grall
2020-08-18 16:16                 ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 12:13                   ` Hongyan Xia
2020-11-30 12:50                     ` Jan Beulich
2020-11-30 14:13                       ` Hongyan Xia
2020-11-30 14:47                         ` Jan Beulich
2020-12-07 15:28   ` Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 04/15] x86/mm: switch to new APIs in map_pages_to_xen Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 05/15] x86/mm: switch to new APIs in modify_xen_mappings Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 06/15] x86_64/mm: introduce pl2e in paging_init Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 07/15] x86_64/mm: switch to new APIs " Hongyan Xia
2020-08-07 14:09   ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 08/15] x86_64/mm: switch to new APIs in setup_m2p_table Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:21 ` [PATCH v8 09/15] efi: use new page table APIs in copy_mapping Hongyan Xia
2020-08-07 14:13   ` Jan Beulich
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 10/15] efi: switch to new APIs in EFI code Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 11/15] x86/smpboot: add exit path for clone_mapping() Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 12/15] x86/smpboot: switch clone_mapping() to new APIs Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 13/15] x86/mm: drop old page table APIs Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 14/15] x86: switch to use domheap page for page tables Hongyan Xia
2020-07-27 14:22 ` [PATCH v8 15/15] x86/mm: drop _new suffix for page table APIs Hongyan Xia

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