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From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
To: "chuck.lever@oracle.com" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: recent intermittent fsx-related failures
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 19:00:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da6ef7efef96f126f89a70446eaf643ab0bcbe26.camel@hammerspace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <680A4FB2-B90D-47E1-A390-36B3081B1464@oracle.com>

On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 23:03 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jul 23, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Trond Myklebust
> > <trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2021-07-23 at 20:12 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> > > Hi-
> > > 
> > > I noticed recently that generic/075, generic/112, and generic/127
> > > were
> > > failing intermittently on NFSv3 mounts. All three of these tests
> > > are
> > > based on fsx.
> > > 
> > > "git bisect" landed on this commit:
> > > 
> > > 7b24dacf0840 ("NFS: Another inode revalidation improvement")
> > > 
> > > After reverting 7b24dacf0840 on v5.14-rc1, I can no longer
> > > reproduce
> > > the test failures.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > So you are seeing file metadata updates that end up not changing
> > the
> > ctime?
> 
> As far as I can tell, a WRITE and two SETATTRs are happening in
> sequence to the same file during the same jiffy. The WRITE does
> not report pre/post attributes, but the SETATTRs do. The reported
> pre- and post- mtime and ctime are all the same value for both
> SETATTRs, I believe due to timestamp_truncate().
> 
> My theory is that persistent-storage-backed filesystems seem to
> go slow enough that it doesn't become a significant problem. But
> with tmpfs, this can happen often enough that the client gets
> confused. And I can make the problem unreproducable if I enable
> enough debugging paraphernalia on the server to slow it down.
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how the client becomes confused by this
> behavior, but fsx reports a stale size value, or it can hit a
> bus error. I'm seeing at least four of the fsx-based xfs tests
> fail intermittently.
> 

The client no longer relies on post-op attributes in order to update
the metadata after a successful SETATTR. If you look at
nfs_setattr_update_inode() you'll see that it picks the values that
were set directly from the iattr argument.

The post-op attributes are only used to determine the implicit
timestamp updates, and to detect any other updates that may have
happened.

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-23 20:12 recent intermittent fsx-related failures Chuck Lever III
2021-07-23 20:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2021-07-23 21:31   ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-23 15:21     ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-19 23:03   ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-19 23:19     ` Trond Myklebust
2021-09-20 20:05       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-21 19:00     ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2021-09-24 15:30       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-24 22:09         ` Trond Myklebust
2021-09-25 17:26           ` Chuck Lever III

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